Kimanalynn Please Join us here

[Mom]

I need to know a few things.

1. are you the same Kimanalynn from DS that now has this as her siggy?

PLEASE CONTACT ADMIN IF YOU ARE WAITING FOR SOMETHING FROM THIS MOMMA
BANNED FOR SEVERAL UNFINISHED TRANSACTIONS, FAILURE TO PARTICIPATE IN MEDIATION, FAILURE TO RESPOND TO ADMIN’S ATTEMPTS TO CONTACT”
It is also my understanding that:

Back this summer there was a MM coop on Crunchy Cooperative. You were doing a yfw trade with the coop yarn, 2 skeins for each (4 total). The yarn was shipped directly to you in late August. You told a participant you didn't have time to work on it then, but she was in no hurry because it was for a baby she was still TTC.

About this same time you hit a really bad time financially and were newely pregnat. The person involved defended you on DS.

You dropped off the face of the Earth for a while. The other party offered to pay for shipping to return the yarn to her , but you ignored her and others attempts to contact you. Meanwhile, I see you are online, on facebook, not "unavailable" as you claimed.

Since then, you have returned her yarn (last week, maybe) and she had to pay her own shipping. You did not return the proper yarn though. 2 skeins Copper patina were ordered for the other member, and 2 skeins Sync for you. You returned her yarn but sent 4 oz colorway and 2 oz trim of ENI Electric Company instead. You have de-friended the other party on facebook and never apologized. The other party doesn't know if you ever intended to scam people, but returning the wrong yarn isn't okay.

You should have paid for shipping for everything for everyone. The other party says that between everyone you have scammed they have collectively spent over $60 for shipping to return things that already belonged to them. What upsets her most is you saying you has no money to ship or refund when they see you on other boards buying things and joining coops. It's so dishonest, especially since they all (most of them, anyway) used to be very good friends with you.

It seems:

That you are also selling some of this yarn on spots.

Is any of this true?

And has anyone else has any issues that we need to know about? Please pm me or post in this thread.

Oh and you are now in the orange user group until this is settled or you are banned.

[Shopaholic]

ruh roh, raggy

[Jerae]

...and the beat goes on....

[~Isme~]

Oh wow. :(

[MooseDon'tWearDiapers]

:shakehead: Unfreakingbelievable.

[*~*Amanda*~*]

It sounds like there are many that will be glad to see this brought to the light....unfortunate but thank goodness CDN brings them to the light.

[MamaOf4Cuties]

:(

[kwootten2]

:sigh:

[Beth]

damn

[MisanthropeKitty]

are the people that are owed the yarn members of here yet? just wondering

[Mom]

are the people that are owed the yarn members of here yet? just wondering

A couple that I know of so far are. I'm hopeful they'll be back today and see this.

[redfishbluefish]

another one bites the dust

[nini02]

:sigh:

[Mom]

Hopefully Kimanalyn will have reasons. Stuff happens we all know that. We wait and see.
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let me add, not saying that it makes it ok. But maybe just maybe there's soemthing valid to it.

[romanlili]

I thought when I saw her hanging around that she had issues over at DS. I even went to DS to check it but got distracted and never finished searching. I'm not involved but her name had raised some red flags with me. I was hoping it wasn't the same person.

[Mom]

I thought when I saw her hanging around that she had issues over at DS. I even went to DS to check it but got distracted and never finished searching. I'm not involved but her name had raised some red flags with me. I was hoping it wasn't the same person.


I do in fact know at this point that it is the same person.

[romanlili]

I do in fact know at this point that it is the same person.

Well thanks as always for doing the dirty work to protect us.

[manymillers8]

Wow. Thanks once again to Mom & admin/mods for watching out for us.

[CowgirlMomma]

Thanks for watching out for us....

[Heather625]

:(

[Jerae]

You've been online and I'm sure you've seen this thread. Respond already. :sigh:

[Lollipop]

:sigh:

Thanks again for protecting us. This is the reason I feel safe b/s/ting here.

[romanlili]

You've been online and I'm sure you've seen this thread. Respond already. :sigh:

oh wow. :shakehead:

[abmama]

Isn't she the same mom that ran the longies swap last summer?

[Jerae]

Isn't she the same mom that ran the longies swap last summer?

If there were issues with it and if there are outstanding issues with it, will you please ask those involved to either sign up and PM Mom or if they're here, they should PM Mom.

[abmama]

no, I wasn't saying there were issues. I guess I"m trying to clarify. The longies swap (well, knit swap I guess) was ran here on CDN.

[randareena]

:( Thanks admin for looking out for the board.

[Jerae]

I misread your post, I thought you were saying she was the same one. Reading thru tears...makes it hard to read.

[frainfam]

I misread your post, I thought you were saying she was the same one. Reading thru tears...makes it hard to read.


Why are you crying, Jerae?

[abmama]

I misread your post, I thought you were saying she was the same one. Reading thru tears...makes it hard to read.
I looked through the closed swaps thread, and couldn't find it, but here on CDN I thought Kimanalyn ran the knitting swap. I'm just trying to figure things out here, not accusing or anything. Just making sure I know who we're talking about.

[Jerae]

Other issues we're dealing with....heart breaking.
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Why are you crying, Jerae?

Meant to quote you! geese! HONK!

[frainfam]

Other issues we're dealing with....heart breaking.
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Meant to quote you! geese! HONK!


I'm sorry! It's just been a poopy week :(

[~Isme~]

Other issues we're dealing with....heart breaking.



:( Are you okay Jerae?

[Jerae]

Yeah...I'm ok. I'm about done with the tears and ready to go ripping into some people tho. :grrr:

[hippydippymama]

Don't cry Jerae! :hugs: Will showing you my boobies make it all better?

[kimanalynn]

I didn't actually see the thread until around 3, when someone pointed it out to me. I've already sent mom a PM.

I apologized a million times to everyone who was in contact with me. I never had ANY intention of scamming anyone; it just blew up in my face all at once; I was overwhelmed and overbooked; and I was trying very hard to get everything caught up and done and out; I was trying to finish up all my swaps and trades, finish my end of the bargain not just cut and run. I lost my home, lost my internet, had no way to contact anyone. I wasn't ignoring anyone; I did drop off of the face of the planet, for about 4 to 6 weeks because I lost my house, lost my internet access; I was able to get on about once a week to check my email, and respond to what I could.Yeah, I hit a bad rough patch. I'm still recovering from that; we lost our house, and our cars. we are living with family. My husband is laid off, on unemployment. Hopefully he will be going back to work soon. I'm starting a new job. I really WOULD like to get everything squared away; like I said, it was NEVER my thought, intention, or even conclusion to try to scam anyone.

[Jerae]

Don't cry Jerae! :hugs: Will showing you my boobies make it all better?

Yes...boobies and chocolate and Starbucks always help. LOL

The first one needs it's own thread tho....elsewhere! lol

Seriously girls, I'm ok. It's nothing here at home...just board stuff that we're all working on. This has been a tough day behind the scenes.

[~Isme~]

Yikes! Go look at Jill's bewbs... and then go quarter whomever it is that's pissing you off and making you cry!
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*Meant to quote Jerae and Jill.

[Deadbeat Daddy]

She is selling this yarn on spots - is this the yarn being sold by amyruth25 on spots?!

[Shaineinok]

She is selling this yarn on spots - is this the yarn being sold by amyruth25 on spots?!

No I think that is someone else.

[VinhThiMom]

Amanda, thanks for explaining. I knew you had gone through a bunch of crap personally. It's no excuse for totally dropping the ball, but it's an explanation at least. I hope everything is made right and I hope your personal life is getting better.

[ScientistMomma]

Seriously girls, I'm ok. It's nothing here at home...just board stuff that we're all working on. This has been a tough day behind the scenes.

:hugs: and :chocolate:

[MommyLovesStarWars]

Yes...boobies and chocolate and Starbucks always help. LOL

The first one needs it's own thread tho....elsewhere! lol

Seriously girls, I'm ok. It's nothing here at home...just board stuff that we're all working on. This has been a tough day behind the scenes.

Sorry! But a big kiss to you and all the other mods/admin for working so hard for us.

We :loveshower: you!

[romanlili]

Other issues we're dealing with....heart breaking.


Is it a full moon or something?! WTH is going on with everyone?

[bellamama]

Yeah...I'm ok. I'm about done with the tears and ready to go ripping into some people tho. :grrr:

:hugs:

[erinkimberley17]

i for one never recevied an apology, only a bashing from you and making me pay for my own shipping to get my yarn back for the skirty that was supposed to be knit and you are all over the place buying things its not my way of you handeling things...the first pair of longies i was sent were not made how i asked them, one leg was about 2 inches smaller then the other and i had to pay another knitter to frog them and redo them. i am still out $ on this whole deal while you paroose the internet buying more yarn and fabric. i feel better getting this off my chest, hope you really do apologize to people like you say you have but i know you havent.

oh her new user name is sohhkb79 on hc and cc

[mommyof8]

I didn't actually see the thread until around 3, when someone pointed it out to me. I've already sent mom a PM.

I apologized a million times to everyone who was in contact with me. I never had ANY intention of scamming anyone; it just blew up in my face all at once; I was overwhelmed and overbooked; and I was trying very hard to get everything caught up and done and out; I was trying to finish up all my swaps and trades, finish my end of the bargain not just cut and run. I lost my home, lost my internet, had no way to contact anyone. I wasn't ignoring anyone; I did drop off of the face of the planet, for about 4 to 6 weeks because I lost my house, lost my internet access; I was able to get on about once a week to check my email, and respond to what I could.Yeah, I hit a bad rough patch. I'm still recovering from that; we lost our house, and our cars. we are living with family. My husband is laid off, on unemployment. Hopefully he will be going back to work soon. I'm starting a new job. I really WOULD like to get everything squared away; like I said, it was NEVER my thought, intention, or even conclusion to try to scam anyone.


Please explain how exactly you apologized to me when you flat out refuse to respond to my emails? You STILL have not completed the longies that I ordered from you April 2009! Nor have you responded to my email requesting MY yarn and a refund. I even said I would take a refund in YARN as opposed to money since we all know you have TONS of yarn there. Yet you boldly told DS admin that you didnt have anything to offer for a refund. You refused to participate in Mediation on DS, you refused to reply to my emails, you refused to complete my longies, you refuse to refund me. AND to top it all off you trying to SELL the yarn! HOW pray tell is it that you can even THINK to say you apologized and you are trying to fix everything? I know that the mamas on DS have been paying their own shipping costs to get items back from you yet you are out BUYING fabric and yarn all over the damned internet. At one point I really did consider you a friend. Now you are nothing more than a con artist/scammer. I for one dont need the stress of fighting with you anymore. I have had my share of stress for the year.

[hippydippymama]

Yes...boobies and chocolate and Starbucks always help. LOL

The first one needs it's own thread tho....elsewhere! lol

Seriously girls, I'm ok. It's nothing here at home...just board stuff that we're all working on. This has been a tough day behind the scenes.

Tomorrow Jerae....chocolate covered boobies for you (I say tomorrow because there is actually no chocolate in the house right now but I will go to the store tomorrow and get some and put it on my boobs just for you!)

are we still allowed to post topless shots in LS...it's been a while I don't wanna break any new rules :err:

[~Isme~]

i for one never recevied an apology, only a bashing from you and making me pay for my own shipping to get my yarn back for the skirty that was supposed to be knit and you are all over the place buying things its not my way of you handeling things...the first pair of longies i was sent were not made how i asked them, one leg was about 2 inches smaller then the other and i had to pay another knitter to frog them and redo them. i am still out $ on this whole deal while you paroose the internet buying more yarn and fabric. i feel better getting this off my chest, hope you really do apologize to people like you say you have but i know you havent.

oh her new user name is sohhkb79 on hc and cc

Please explain how exactly you apologized to me when you flat out refuse to respond to my emails? You STILL have not completed the longies that I ordered from you April 2009! Nor have you responded to my email requesting MY yarn and a refund. I even said I would take a refund in YARN as opposed to money since we all know you have TONS of yarn there. Yet you boldly told DS admin that you didnt have anything to offer for a refund. You refused to participate in Mediation on DS, you refused to reply to my emails, you refused to complete my longies, you refuse to refund me. AND to top it all off you trying to SELL the yarn! HOW pray tell is it that you can even THINK to say you apologized and you are trying to fix everything? I know that the mamas on DS have been paying their own shipping costs to get items back from you yet you are out BUYING fabric and yarn all over the damned internet. At one point I really did consider you a friend. Now you are nothing more than a con artist/scammer. I for one dont need the stress of fighting with you anymore. I have had my share of stress for the year.

Oh wow. This stuff is just WAY uncool. :(

[Deanner03]

:sigh: This is sad.

[Manda00]

ruhroh

[romanlili]

Oh wow. This stuff is just WAY uncool. :(

:yeahthat:

[mom2jjorion]

WTF

[Veruca Salt]

I'm sorry things have been so difficult lately. :sigh:
Yeah...I'm ok. I'm about done with the tears and ready to go ripping into some people tho. :grrr:

[VinhThiMom]

Ok, I take back my previous statement. Personal crap does NOT explain all that. I wasn't involved in the mediation on DS so I didn't know any of these details.

[BeccatheGreat]

:sigh:

[nini02]

Oh wow. This stuff is just WAY uncool. :(

:yeahthat: I'm willing to hear an explanation, but I can't imagine what a good one could be....

[Jerae]

Kimanalynn, let me give you a prime example of how to wear your BGP's in this situation:

say something like:

I had a transaction with Susie, I ~FARK~ed up this way bad, but here's how I fixed it. (Explain "fix") I've invited Susie to this board so that she can either agree that this transaction is resolved or tell me what I need to do to fix it and I will do that immediately.

and then repeat for anyone else you've had issues with.

Trust me, if you forget anyone, they'll let you know.

[Sweetiebird Fashions]

hmm, i have interacted quite a bit w/ Amanda and fwiw this doesn't sound like her. i;m not saying it didn't happen... just saying that maybe we all lose part of ourselves when we fall on hard times.
If I know this mama like I think I do, she will want to right all of this.
It is possible that when we naturally go into 'survival mode' due to life circumstances and especially crisis, which it sounds like what Amanda is in, that we blot out and forget about certain things in our life.

Now that everyone can post what the issues are, I am sure Amanda will work to resolve each one.

I think it would be very human of all of us to keep a civil tongue about us and move forward, so long as this mama is participating in correcting the issues.

JMO. We all could use a little more compassion and it sounds like Amanda could use some here.

Now, if she doesn't work to correct these things then it's a different story IMO....

[Purple]

:shake:

what a mess.

[Lolanae]

Wow. I've done a transaction with Amanda before, and it went fine. I was kind of surprised when the drama came up, but the details now just shock me completely. Very curious as to the explination.

[elabela]

I'd say giving her a thread to explain and make things right IS giving her compassion over just outright banning someone, but maybe it's just me.

[megameg]

I'd say giving her a thread to explain and make things right IS giving her compassion over just outright banning someone, but maybe it's just me.

:werd:

[honeychild]

Please explain how exactly you apologized to me when you flat out refuse to respond to my emails? You STILL have not completed the longies that I ordered from you April 2009! Nor have you responded to my email requesting MY yarn and a refund. I even said I would take a refund in YARN as opposed to money since we all know you have TONS of yarn there. Yet you boldly told DS admin that you didnt have anything to offer for a refund. You refused to participate in Mediation on DS, you refused to reply to my emails, you refused to complete my longies, you refuse to refund me. AND to top it all off you trying to SELL the yarn! HOW pray tell is it that you can even THINK to say you apologized and you are trying to fix everything? I know that the mamas on DS have been paying their own shipping costs to get items back from you yet you are out BUYING fabric and yarn all over the damned internet. At one point I really did consider you a friend. Now you are nothing more than a con artist/scammer. I for one dont need the stress of fighting with you anymore. I have had my share of stress for the year.
I would love to hear an explanation for this one. If this is fact, I can't think of any circumstance that would make that behavior ok.

[erinkimberley17]

i think if an apology was given to anyone, things might have been different, she made no effort with most of us involved in the mediation.

[Mom]

I am giving her the opportunity to make this right. I am giving her the chance to defend herself.

She was not outright banned.

But based on what was said at DS in her siggy, she didn't take the time there to work it out. But, it could ahve been when she was off line.

I don't know.

this thread is for her to be able to explain the whos/what/whens and wheres.

No one in this thread has been uncompasionate.

[Sweetiebird Fashions]

I agree, this thread is showing compassion, exactly.
And, I agree, no explaination makes it OK. It's never ok to do people wrong.
Please don't mistake what I said or read anything into it. I just believe that Amanda has a heart and wouldn't plan on any wronging of people, that's all.

[Rocket Queen]

:popcorn: And for you adminy types. :flash: You deserve some boobage and vodka and chocolate. I can only help with the boobage.

[Kim]

sigh. Another mama gone bad.....

Thanks CDN admins for keeping the board informed and safe....

[supergirljennie]

I am the mama from the OP. For the record, I have always liked you and defended you on DS until it was obvious that you were unavailable. The issue is and was that you ignored people's attempts. I would have been fine with waiting if you had some communication. You knew that you were losing your house for 4-6 weeks beforehand and had opportunity at that time to make things right. You chose to become unavailable and uncooperative. It was more the lack of communication that did it. You were still talking to other people but not those involved with issues with you.

I know that you felt attacked because of everything. We were not attacking you. You were having a completely crap time in your life, and we all were more than willing to be understanding. But when you ignore people, that situation quickly changes. We just wanted to be done with the situation and move on.

And no, I've never heard an apology. No, "Sorry, I messed up." That's all I would need at this point. Insincere apologies of, "I'm sorry you feel like I'm scamming you," don't count. I'm done feeling hurt and angry and slighted by someone who I thought was a friend of mine.

[TNB]

yikes.


another one bites the dust. :9
Thanks for keeping a watch out admin!

[erinkimberley17]

I am the mama from the OP. For the record, I have always liked you and defended you on DS until it was obvious that you were unavailable. The issue is and was that you ignored people's attempts. I would have been fine with waiting if you had some communication. You knew that you were losing your house for 4-6 weeks beforehand and had opportunity at that time to make things right. You chose to become unavailable and uncooperative. It was more the lack of communication that did it. You were still talking to other people but not those involved with issues with you.

I know that you felt attacked because of everything. We were not attacking you. You were having a completely crap time in your life, and we all were more than willing to be understanding. But when you ignore people, that situation quickly changes. We just wanted to be done with the situation and move on.

And no, I've never heard an apology. No, "Sorry, I messed up." That's all I would need at this point. Insincere apologies of, "I'm sorry you feel like I'm scamming you," don't count. I'm done feeling hurt and angry and slighted by someone who I thought was a friend of mine.

:werd:

[kimanalynn]

Erin, I'm sorry that the longies didn't work out for you. I did offer to redo the cuff, because I didn't recall the discussion that you didn't want the trim as the cuff; I was given a "price" that I owed you, and I sent you that in yarn, which I was told by the mod was acceptable. About 6 weeks ago, I didn't have the money to send any of this stuff back to anyone, since my PP was frozen. It was offered to me by a friend/mod on DS to pay for the shipping of the box to her, and then she would distribute the stuff for me; that's how that stuff got mailed out. I did start with the moderation, but then after that was when I lost my internet. I admit now, Amanda, I should have just paid you back for the longies and sent you your yarn; I really thought I was going to be able to finish them. If you will still take payment in yarn, I will send you yarn. I owe 3 other mama's either FOs or yarn; I sent them their yarn back because I was advised under the circumstances it was best to not hold onto their yarn; send it back, and it could be worked out later the finishing of the product they wanted out of the yarn. At this point, of course I understand no one wanting me to do anything for them. I sold yarn to fund what I needed to make diapers for the new bean. I didn't sell any of the yarn that was attached to an unfinished transaction, JIC thsoe mama's chose not to have me finish their work. I was supposed to hear back from my mod friend, but I haven't heard from anyone about anything. I don't know that there is anything else I can say to show that I wasn't scamming, never planned to keep anything that wasn't mine, never planned to sell someone's yarn that wasn't mine.

[pinkflamingos77]

:sigh::shakehead::twitch:

[BuggaBuggaBoutique]

I am the mama from the OP. For the record, I have always liked you and defended you on DS until it was obvious that you were unavailable. The issue is and was that you ignored people's attempts. I would have been fine with waiting if you had some communication. You knew that you were losing your house for 4-6 weeks beforehand and had opportunity at that time to make things right. You chose to become unavailable and uncooperative. It was more the lack of communication that did it. You were still talking to other people but not those involved with issues with you.

I know that you felt attacked because of everything. We were not attacking you. You were having a completely crap time in your life, and we all were more than willing to be understanding. But when you ignore people, that situation quickly changes. We just wanted to be done with the situation and move on.

And no, I've never heard an apology. No, "Sorry, I messed up." That's all I would need at this point. Insincere apologies of, "I'm sorry you feel like I'm scamming you," don't count. I'm done feeling hurt and angry and slighted by someone who I thought was a friend of mine.


exactly

[erinkimberley17]

you were told by the mod it was acceptable, ever think to contact me and ask me, because what i told that mod was not apparently the same thing she told you...that one little skein of who knows what will not make up for what i have gone through or am out
and redoing the cuff would not make those longies work, like i told you and you stated you didnt have time to redo them

[romanlili]

:sigh::shakehead::twitch:

:yeahthat:

[Rocket Queen]

I'm sorry that the longies didn't work for you. I hate passive aggressive apologies. :twitch:

[mom2jjorion]

snip
I don't know that there is anything else I can say to show that I wasn't scamming, never planned to keep anything that wasn't mine, never planned to sell someone's yarn that wasn't mine.

Soo, you did sell yarn that did not belong to you?

[Stacylicious]

I hate passive aggressive apologies. :twitch:
Well said. I was thinking the exact same thing.

[snookemz]

I hate passive aggressive apologies. :twitch:

Well Jessi, I'm sorry you feel that way





:toofunny:

[Deadbeat Daddy]

LMAO em!

[megameg]

Well Jessi, I'm sorry you feel that way





:toofunny:

:lol: I was going to say "I'm sorry that apology didn't work for you, Jessi."

[mbphoto]

I have to say, I am sort of confused.

Did you sell yarn that didnt belong to you? Did you not reply to emails?

[Rocket Queen]

Well Jessi, I'm sorry you feel that way





:toofunny:

I choked on a candied walnut. You bish! :pursefight:
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Smiley fail... grr.

[erinkimberley17]

:toofunny:

[kimanalynn]

you were told by the mod it was acceptable, ever think to contact me and ask me, because what i told that mod was not apparently the same thing she told you...that one little skein of who knows what will not make up for what i have gone through or am out
and redoing the cuff would not make those longies work, like i told you and you stated you didnt have time to redo them

no, you're right; I'm sorry. I didn't think that she would have told me something different than what you told her. Based on what I was told, I sent you 200 gms of LT. I should have contacted you to ask you what would ahve been best.

[daisy0306]

:(

[Leininger27]

i for one never recevied an apology, only a bashing from you and making me pay for my own shipping to get my yarn back for the skirty that was supposed to be knit and you are all over the place buying things its not my way of you handeling things...the first pair of longies i was sent were not made how i asked them, one leg was about 2 inches smaller then the other and i had to pay another knitter to frog them and redo them. i am still out $ on this whole deal while you paroose the internet buying more yarn and fabric. i feel better getting this off my chest, hope you really do apologize to people like you say you have but i know you havent.

oh her new user name is sohhkb79 on hc and cc

CC as in my site??

[Carly]

Wow..

[supergirljennie]

Yes. She is still registered as Kimanalynn and also the second user name.

[Lollipop]

Yes. She is still registered as Kimanalynn and also the second user name.

wow.

[Leininger27]

Well I for one tried contacting you several times a well as your swap partner on CC when you decided to drop off the face of the earth. I never banned you from CC so an explanation of ANY kind would have been nice. Thankfully a DS mod was able to get the yarn that you had of your partners and returned it back to her. Again no apology was issued to April in fact you had no communication with her at all. I got Jo and April connected to get her yarn back. No work done from you at all.

I personally also had a MM for woolies swap done with you. Thank God Meredith took longer with that trim because I didn't send the yarn with what you had bought in the coop.

I never banned you on CC so that fact your recreated a username to me just seems shady and obviously you didn't want me to know it was you.

Thanks for the heads up previous poster. She won't be allowed in any coops on CC either!

[5LilMonkeys]

Well I for one tried contacting you several times a well as your swap partner on CC when you decided to drop off the face of the earth. I never banned you from CC so an explanation of ANY kind would have been nice. Thankfully a DS mod was able to get the yarn that you had of your partners and returned it back to her. Again no apology was issued to April in fact you had no communication with her at all. I got Jo and April connected to get her yarn back. No work done from you at all.

I personally also had a MM for woolies swap done with you. Thank God Meredith took longer with that trim because I didn't send the yarn with what you had bought in the coop.

I never banned you on CC so that fact your recreated a username to me just seems shady and obviously you didn't want me to know it was you.

Thanks for the heads up previous poster. She won't be allowed in any coops on CC either!

OOOHHH this pisses me off. I was a worker in serveral of those swaps and took longer in atleast 1 but ALWAYS kept in contact. There is NO excuse to screw someone over. :shakehead:

Im glad you were spared Jodi. :sigh:

[Leininger27]

FTR she wasn't banned in hopes she would return and offer some explanation. I am a pretty understanding person and understand that things come up and sometimes life throws ya for a loop. I had heard of your situation so I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.

I did contact admin here when I saw her posting away here like nobodies business. Then I saw her ISO and was pretty furious which is when Mom was contacted. Sorry you all are stuck with the backlash of it all.

[Leininger27]

And to make things even better she joined my most recent MM coop on CC and just ordered $60 in yarn. You don't have the money to pay shipping after having people's yarn for month. MONTHS, but you can get money to join a coop!!!

Ugg disgust me!

[VinhThiMom]

Wow...

[5LilMonkeys]

And to make things even better she joined my most recent MM coop on CC and just ordered $60 in yarn. You don't have the money to pay shipping after having people's yarn for month. MONTHS, but you can get money to join a coop!!!

Ugg disgust me!

:speechless: :shakehead: :sigh:

[addiesmommy]

And to make things even better she joined my most recent MM coop on CC and just ordered $60 in yarn. You don't have the money to pay shipping after having people's yarn for month. MONTHS, but you can get money to join a coop!!!

Ugg disgust me!


yikes.

[Shopaholic]

I'm confused.... did the woman who was the receiver of the "I"m sorry the longies didn't work out for you" get any longies?? didn't she NOT get any longies that were ordered in april? The apology doesn't make sense if I'm right about that... I"m sorry they didn't work out for you. If she never got the longies OR the yarn OR her money woudln't the apology be "I'm sorry I kept your yarn and never sent you anything?" I'm confused.

[erinkimberley17]

these instances are 2 different people

[Leininger27]

I'm confused.... did the woman who was the receiver of the "I"m sorry the longies didn't work out for you" get any longies?? didn't she NOT get any longies that were ordered in april? The apology doesn't make sense if I'm right about that... I"m sorry they didn't work out for you. If she never got the longies OR the yarn OR her money woudln't the apology be "I'm sorry I kept your yarn and never sent you anything?" I'm confused.

I think mommyof8 is the one from April that didn't receive any longies. I think Erin was the one that received longies with 2 different size legs.

[MisanthropeKitty]

anyone care to tell me what CC is? is it another forum?

[snookemz]

I'm confused.... did the woman who was the receiver of the "I"m sorry the longies didn't work out for you" get any longies?? didn't she NOT get any longies that were ordered in april? The apology doesn't make sense if I'm right about that... I"m sorry they didn't work out for you. If she never got the longies OR the yarn OR her money woudln't the apology be "I'm sorry I kept your yarn and never sent you anything?" I'm confused.


I think she GOT longies, but they were wrong. There was mention of trim being misused? Its all so hard to follow when there are so many people peeved
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anyone care to tell me what CC is? is it another forum?

Crunchy Cooperative I think

[shaynelemaster]

I think she GOT longies, but they were wrong. There was mention of trim being misused? Its all so hard to follow when there are so many people peeved
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Crunchy Cooperative I think

i think the bigger problem with the longies was , the 2 inch +/- differnce in the legs plus the attitude about the issue after that

[snookemz]

i think the bigger problem with the longies was , the 2 inch +/- difference in the legs plus the attitude about the issue after that

yep that would probably make me pretty unhappy, unless I had a lopsided child. Is there a lopsided child involved? :toofunny:

[shaynelemaster]

yep that would probably make me pretty unhappy, unless I had a lopsided child. Is there a lopsided child involved? :toofunny:

nope... Erin's lil girl is quite a symmetrical lil cutie.. :toofunny:

[Queen of pain]

Well Jessi, I'm sorry you feel that way





:toofunny:


Damn! I was just gonna say that.

[Leininger27]

yep that would probably make me pretty unhappy, unless I had a lopsided child. Is there a lopsided child involved? :toofunny:

:lmao:

Yeah attitude certainly isn't going to help!

[erinkimberley17]

her legs appear to be the same size to me :lmao:

http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt322/erinkimberley17/HPIM4793.jpg

[Rocket Queen]

yep that would probably make me pretty unhappy, unless I had a lopsided child. Is there a lopsided child involved? :toofunny:

Shh, we call it symmetrically challenged.

[snookemz]

awe she's all baldish like MY princess!! bald is beautiful!!! can I have her? kthanks.

[shaynelemaster]

Shh, we call it symmetrically challenged.

:toofunny:

[Leininger27]

her legs appear to be the same size to me :lmao:

http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt322/erinkimberley17/HPIM4793.jpg


Her head is tilted... maybe that is why she thought her legs were 2" different. :toofunny:

She is a cutie.

[snookemz]

she actually looks a LOT like my baldilocks - with the big blues and chubby thighs.

[Anna1345]

:eek:

[erinkimberley17]

omg thank you for the laugh

[Leininger27]

Her cheeks are so very kiss-ably plump. I love em!

[Shaineinok]

Holy cow this is bad. :speechless::speechless::speechless::speechless:

[erinkimberley17]

i wish there was baby rogaine, shes almost a year and virtually no hair

[Leininger27]

omg thank you for the laugh

At least something good can come out of this right???

[erinkimberley17]

At least something good can come out of this right???


def wasnt expecting much but the laugh helped


:loveshower:

[Leininger27]

i wish there was baby rogaine, shes almost a year and virtually no hair

Dont be knocking baldies. Mine dd is 1 yr and she is bald!

[snookemz]

it doesn't get better - 19 m and bald like no other. I'd post a pic but I don't have the intellectual power to do so anymore cause I took my meds for the night and its taking me like 50 hrs to type. for shiz.

[Rocket Queen]

i wish there was baby rogaine, shes almost a year and virtually no hair

Q is almost 2 and only has a little more than her... LOL

[erinkimberley17]

people ask me if shes a boy

[snookemz]

I dress Shae in pink dressed with flowers and I get "oh hes so handsomes"

[BeccatheGreat]

Go to bed Emz or The Blue Clam of Doom will bite your head off! Rawr!

[ScientistMomma]

i wish there was baby rogaine, shes almost a year and virtually no hair

Don't worry about it. My DD didn't have much hair at a year, but grew tons between 1 and 2. Now we can do pigtails and ponytails if she only had the patience to sit still and let me do them...
She's still a cutie without much hair.

[snookemz]

blue clam of doooooooooooooooooooooom!!

[shaynelemaster]

I dress Shae in pink dressed with flowers and I get "oh hes so handsomes"

lol i'd take that anyday :giggle: i get atleast daily... " oh she's beautiful" for my Declan.. my mom said it's the necklace and couple of curls back there in the back .. but dang he only wears the boyish stuff i can find.. :shakehead:

[BuggaBuggaBoutique]

EMZ - we must all have cute little baldies! when erin was down visiting me, people asked if her makenzy and my vivian were twins

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq13/buggabuggaboutique/cute009.jpg

[Heather625]

She is adorable! I love chubby cheeks-perfect for noming on!

[ScientistMomma]

Go to bed Emz or The Blue Clam of Doom will bite your head off! Rawr!

Is that the title fairy's new name? I think Emz could get a pretty good new title if she sticks around. :teehee:

[BeccatheGreat]

Aw gawd such cute baldies!

[BuggaBuggaBoutique]

I dress Shae in pink dressed with flowers and I get "oh hes so handsomes"

yep! i had her in pink ruffle longies, a pink long sleeve tee with a big heart appliques on it and a big bow headband on her head....."how old is he, he;s so handsome!" :twitch:

[erinkimberley17]

god im dying to post a pic of the longies, is that legal

[MyThreeMiracles]

My kids are baldies too. :giggle: Katie didn't get more than an inch until she was almost two then it never stopped growing! Aiden's still a little baldie.

and yeah I got the 'he's so cute' comments w/Katie dressed head to toe in pink and ribbons and bows. :twitch:

[okmommy06]

god im dying to post a pic of the longies, is that legal


I'm not going to say it's legal as I have no idea, i'm almost positive it is though..the only things I'm aware of that are against board rules are PM's. But I would like to see them, when you get the go ahead.

[emy_lou]

wow, this is all shocking!

[RowBabyRow]

This is all sad :(. But I must say, if the main issue in not responding was being homeless/ having no internet then what's stopping the responses now?

Cute baldy babes in this thread :wub:

[kmz3301]

:speechless:

How many people are we talking about who got scammed? There is 2 in this thread, is there more?

[shaynelemaster]

:speechless:

How many people are we talking about who got scammed? There is 2 in this thread, is there more?


yes

[erinkimberley17]

there is 3 of us here....many more

[Duckie]

:(

[Katiebear]

I think that a picture of the uneven longies would be ok to post, especially if the transaction isn't really resolved.

[11-13-06]

boo...

[_melody_]

god im dying to post a pic of the longies, is that legal


It'll be fine for you to post a picture of the longies. I'm sorry you were taken advantage of like this. :hugs:

[mayasmom25]

What an awful mess! :(

[cowboycadesmomma]

:holycow:

[shaynelemaster]

i know im new and im sorry if this is out of line but i feel like it should be mentioned if nothing else to make me ( and some others who agree ) feel better that this is known. not so that something can happen from the information but just to make it known that all is not peachy keen..

I feel that Amanda's " mod freind on another forum" is partaking in a serious conflict of interests by doing what she's doing to "help" amanda out , to someone who doesnt know all the details from more than one party may look at the "work" of said freind as the law becuase of her moderator postition , and having said that and re-read it , it may not seem like much to most but , to know these people "personally" (well as much as you can talking daily for a year ) and the nature of the relationship it is not as clean as you would expect that a moderator is handling a transaction dispute. i mean if i messed up, waited months and then said well it's all good cause my friend Mc Moddy Mod Mod is taking care of it.. that would be okay?


. to many who were done dirty in these dealings, we were her friends, talked daily out of main forums.. we all trusted each other , and the thing that bothered us mostly was the deceit , we had a separate forum to chat without heavy moderation by another site ;) and she would log in regularly to lurk i assume all the while this was when she was claiming no internet/communication .. it's just shady and i am really sad for friends who got the dirty end of the stick in all this , we all gave her the benefit of the doubt but piece by piece she blew that away ..

[~Isme~]

This is just awful. :(

[luvmykiddoes]

i know im new and im sorry if this is out of line but i feel like it should be mentioned if nothing else to make me ( and some others who agree ) feel better that this is known. not so that something can happen from the information but just to make it known that all is not peachy keen..

I feel that Amanda's " mod freind on another forum" is partaking in a serious conflict of interests by doing what she's doing to "help" amanda out , to someone who doesnt know all the details from more than one party may look at the "work" of said freind as the law becuase of her moderator postition , and having said that and re-read it , it may not seem like much to most but , to know these people "personally" (well as much as you can talking daily for a year ) and the nature of the relationship it is not as clean as you would expect that a moderator is handling a transaction dispute. i mean if i messed up, waited months and then said well it's all good cause my friend Mc Moddy Mod Mod is taking care of it.. that would be okay?


. to many who were done dirty in these dealings, we were her friends, talked daily out of main forums.. we all trusted each other , and the thing that bothered us mostly was the deceit , we had a separate forum to chat without heavy moderation by another site ;) and she would log in regularly to lurk i assume all the while this was when she was claiming no internet/communication .. it's just shady and i am really sad for friends who got the dirty end of the stick in all this , we all gave her the benefit of the doubt but piece by piece she blew that away ..Yes, I agree with this. I know I'm new here, but, I was also one that was involved during mediation. I did get my longies, however, it took nearly 5 months to finally get them. I think what took everyone by surprise in this situation is that we were all friends. As much as you could be online anyway. We just never thought in a million years that our friend could do this to any of us. I think that's why so many people were willing to wait months to get their stuff before finally realizing: Oh my gosh, she really is doing this to us!?! Honestly, I still find myself thinking "what? really? no way?!?" sometimes.
Amanda, your husband was out of work for months before you lost your house and cars yet you still continued to buy yarn. You posted pics many, many times and bragged about what all was coming your way. I think you priorities should have been made to uphold your deals you already had in the works and a little less on buying more yarn. Your excuses that you have posted on here just don't make sense. You were online even when you were "out of pocket" for a while. I even tried to talk to you about things and the last time we yimmed you basically had the attitude of "so what" about everything. As though you were just done with it. Right after that is when we never heard from you again. Or, at least, communication was very few and far between.

[otis]

:holysheep: I think someone has a shopping issue. Get help!!!!

[LoveMuffins]

Don't worry too much about the baldies! DD1 had pretty much nothing for hair until she was 2, now she has beautiful long blond hair :)

[Danni]

I was supposed to hear back from my mod friend, but I haven't heard from anyone about anything. I don't know that there is anything else I can say to show that I wasn't scamming, never planned to keep anything that wasn't mine, never planned to sell someone's yarn that wasn't mine.


To the bolded. It is YOUR responsibility to make sure everything turned out ok, not the mods and then just assume all if fine. What is she your mommy?

To the rest? There is a whole lot you can say. We understand things went bad, but after that...after you moved to your sisters. That is where you can explain. Did you just forget about all these people who were waiting?
You need to list each transaction that was not fullfilled, tell if it was eventually followed through. Then list all that are still outstanding and tell how you will fix it.

Oh and how is it that you are here almsot everyday posting away, but on the day your call out thread comes in you are here and post twice? Coincidence? I think not. Take the BGP off your head and wear them on your clam....cuz girl your gonna need them on to explain this all away.

[robertribeye]

Wow :(

[jenniferjunniper]

Oh wow, what a mess. It is so sad to see the hurt mamas on here. Amanda, I think you are nice person, but you have a serious problem. A serious problem!!! You need to stop! It is so easy to get caught up in the yarn craze, but you have taken it to extremes. YOU HAVE NO HOME!!! Yet you still buy yarn. Hell I have a home, and we do well, and I do not drop $60 on yarn on a whim. You need to do some serious soul searching, and some self evaluation, and decide what is important. I think it is time for an intervention, and I am being 100% serious.

To all the new mamas here who have been dealing with this, I am so sorry! I am glad you are here, and hope that all will be worked out, and that you will all stick around.

[Stephy]

I sent in a PM

I will say that if I new how she was going to scr*w me over there is no way I would have defended her as long as i did.

Amanda I don`t even have words for you I am so P*ssed and I WAS a friend and defended you to everyone on ds even in the end but when I found out about our dealing HOW can you knowingly do that to a friend just how?

[mbphoto]

I am still confused. It doesnt seem that Amanda is answering any questions. Maybe she should be given a list to respond to.

And Jenn, I agree. No home and yarn shopping? Hell, I could buy any yarn I wanted and often pass up purchases. I think before spending $60.00 on yarn also.

This behavior is not normal.

[Sakura]

Its not normal but you know what? Sometimes it happens. Addiction doesn't pick and choose if thats the case here.
And shes probably not answering because well this thread is kind of all over the place.

[romanlili]

everytime I read something new about this I am :speechless:
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[Danni]

You need to list each transaction that was not fullfilled, tell if it was eventually followed through. Then list all that are still outstanding and tell how you will fix it.


This is really what she needs to answer.
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I am sure there will be specific questions after that but first we need to have the transactions laid out.

[mbphoto]

Right, thats why I said maybe there should be a list of questions for her to answer. There seems to be a lot of confusion.

[earthmama]

blue clam of doooooooooooooooooooooom!!I'm gonna sing the doom song now...
doom doom doo doom doom
doom doom do DOOM,
doomy doomy doomy
doom doom doo doom doom
doom doom do DOOM,
doomy doomy doomy

:hapdance:

[MooseDon'tWearDiapers]

Its not normal but you know what? Sometimes it happens. Addiction doesn't pick and choose if thats the case here.
And shes probably not answering because well this thread is kind of all over the place.

That happens here. Too bad, so sad. She needs to read through everything and answer the questions being asked of her. Regardless of whatever silliness is posted here.

[Shaineinok]

The more I read the more I think this is a case of serious addiction. So sad.
Obviously a list of transactions and where they stand would be a place to start. Also a way to show accountability. But she's going to have to want to do this to make a change.

[mbphoto]

Why a shopping addiction? I mean she just could not give a shit. I mean it doesnt always have to be clinical.

[_melody_]

Since it is unlikely that Amanda is willingly going to list every transaction, which is a problem, if she even remembers all of them (many people in this situation seem to have trouble with that), we need to start to make a list for her. I know that many of the people involved have not been on our board before this incident, and may not know how we handle things. If you were in a transaction with Amanda and had problems, especially if those problems are unresolved, please PM me or Mom with the details, and also let us know what it would take to make things right. If you KNOW of transactions with someone who is not on the board, you are free to send us that info too, or even better, invite the persons involved to come and join us in this thread. The more information we can gather, the more likely it becomes that this will have a positive outcome for all of us.

Also, Amanda, please do not walk away from this feeling that things are hopeless. They are not. There are other people on this board who have been in your position before, and once things were all out in public they went ahead and made things right. They were not banned and, in fact, were applauded when they had done the right thing. They remain active members on the board til this day. We want that for you. You'll feel so much better when you can put this all behind you, I promise. Please help us to make that happen.

[Kim]

Why a shopping addiction? I mean she just could not give a ~POOP~. I mean it doesnt always have to be clinical.

I totally agree.

[Shaineinok]

Why a shopping addiction? I mean she just could not give a ~POOP~. I mean it doesnt always have to be clinical.

True but personally if your homeless, without a car and still buying high end yarn then it speaks addict, just the same as my sil did with her gambling.

[Noellabelle]

Also, Amanda, please do not walk away from this feeling that things are hopeless. They are not. There are other people on this board who have been in your position before, and once things were all out in public they went ahead and made things right. They were not banned and, in fact, were applauded when they had done the right thing. They remain active members on the board til this day. We want that for you. You'll feel so much better when you can put this all behind you, I promise. Please help us to make that happen.

I have had positive experiences with Amanda, and I truly feel for her after all she's been through this past year. I know that's not an excuse for transaction issues, but I can just imagine the mess I would become if I had to go through that. I really hope that she can work through the list of disputes and get them resolved.

[mommyof8]

My outstanding transaction is for a pair of linen stitch longies that I purchased 9 months ago (total paid was $49).
and 8 oz of HC yarn (approx $50)


I have offered to accept HC yarns as a refund.
I have offered to accept PP as a refund.
And I have offered any combination of the 2 as a refund.

I have received NO response from her at all to my request for a refund. I knew she was having issues which I why I was not pushing her to finish them. I WAS her friend and I had no problem waiting. Now at this point I am one of the last people out of a HUGE list of people at DS that still has an open transaction even though mine was the FIRST one she entered into.

[Treighsie]

This is a sad surprise...

[kmz3301]

I wish for a simpler time where you got what you paid for and not excuses.

While losing everything is a tragic event, you still had responsibilities. You could have gone to the local library if they had a public computer. It sounds like you had a lot of friends on the board, you could have tried to make contact with a few of them to try and resolve these issues.

[shortcake2386]

add me to the "waiting on items from Kimanalynn" list:twitch:

i sent her my end of the trade well over 7 months ago. originally she was going to make me nb items for Meaghan, but Meaghan was stillborn so i asked if she could do something for my younger dd instead. i was not picky or anything just provided measurements and asked for girly...and waited...and waited....and am still waiting.....i was told before christmas that my item was shipping(was told this on December 7th through emails) no item and no response to emails since:(

[Stacylicious]

After reading through this the past couple of days I was just thinking that I hope another positive thing comes out of this too. That being, the newer mamas see how wonderfully things are handled on this site and that they decide to stick around and hang out here more.

I'm not bashing any other sites but I think dealing with things in the open and asking as many questions as possible before banning a member speaks volumes to the integrity of a website and dedication of it's moderators.

Thanks ladies.

[romanlili]

After reading through this the past couple of days I was just thinking that I hope another positive thing comes out of this too. That being, the newer mamas see how wonderfully things are handled on this site and that they decide to stick around and hang out here more.

I'm not bashing any other sites but I think dealing with things in the open and asking as many questions as possible before banning a member speaks volumes to the integrity of a website and dedication of it's moderators.

Thanks ladies.

Exactly! Well said!

[mommyof8]

After reading through this the past couple of days I was just thinking that I hope another positive thing comes out of this too. That being, the newer mamas see how wonderfully things are handled on this site and that they decide to stick around and hang out here more.

I'm not bashing any other sites but I think dealing with things in the open and asking as many questions as possible before banning a member speaks volumes to the integrity of a website and dedication of it's moderators.

Thanks ladies.


I dont want to turn this into a what board is better debate but I will say that I know she was not just instantly banned from ds...She was invited to mediation, she refused to participate. Mods and Admins on ds went out of their way trying to talk with her and she refused to respond to anyone at all. THAT is when she finally got banned. She was given TONS of chances to explain or make things better at ds.

[jd4213]

:( for all you mamas involved!
~~~~~~~
That is supposed to be a sad face.. not frown.

[Stacylicious]

I dont want to turn this into a what board is better debate but I will say that I know she was not just instantly banned from ds...She was invited to mediation, she refused to participate. Mods and Admins on ds went out of their way trying to talk with her and she refused to respond to anyone at all. THAT is when she finally got banned. She was given TONS of chances to explain or make things better at ds.

I know you ladies at DS work hard and give people the chance to work it out. Not saying one place is better than the other. I'm pretty fond of DS too...I just hope some of the new mamas stick around after this and give this place a chance to grow on them cause it's a pretty cool place.

And Kim - They are really giving you every chance to make this right so please do. You have has a rough time of it obviously but you can still admit your mistakes and make it right without the excuses or flip statements of "I thought that was taken care of...blah blah blah". You will feel so much better about yourself for having done so.

[erinkimberley17]

I for one only brought up my story to try and prevent any mamas on this board from getting scammed too. If I have done anything wrong please lmk. I am not suprised that Amanda has dissapeared from this mediation too...its happened b4. But now another group of people are educated on what she has done.
As far as what i am owed, at this point money its relative to the friendship lost and waiting for the longest time for an apology. But that will prob not happen either so,
a yymn to replace ridiculous longies she would not fix (have a pic if needed) $45 , $45 yymn skirty spot minus 1 skein undyed LT (approx $18) brings total to $72

[*Elf*]

You can add me to the list.

I wasn't technically involved, but I did pay the moderator involved in shipping the yarn to the participants (or scamees) the shipping from Kimanalynn to her.

Someone originally paid the shipping and I sent the 35.00 as a "gift" through PayPal so that the moderator was not out any money.

If she can buy 60.00 in yarn, she could have paid for the shipping instead of anyone being out the money.

[jenniferjunniper]

I dont want to turn this into a what board is better debate but I will say that I know she was not just instantly banned from ds...She was invited to mediation, she refused to participate. Mods and Admins on ds went out of their way trying to talk with her and she refused to respond to anyone at all. THAT is when she finally got banned. She was given TONS of chances to explain or make things better at ds.



Ahhh, you may be right, but we all know the truth. Not to slam "other" boards or anything, just saying.

Nuff said by me, I am off.

[kimanalynn]

I'm here. I'll be making a list. I'll be doing everything I can to make this as right as can possibly be; I dont' expect hurt feelings to just go away.

I think I might have been so wrapped up, tangled up in ME, that I totally missed how hurt all my friends were in this. :( I'm sorry mamas. All of you were such good friends to me, and it shames me to know that you think that i really was going to not finish any of this. I know all of ya'll hate me/have written me off, and I guess I have to be ok with that. I loved all of you, and truely, I apologize for putting anybody through anything they went through. Not my intention whatsoever.

And I have to say, however bad it makes me look, it didn't cross my mind to repay the shipping for the big box of stuff that went out. It went out, I had a sigh of relief that that stuff was out of my house, and I just felt like it was done. I need to finish up with -
Amanda
Another Amanda
Jennie
"purseaddict"

I owe the bottom 3 either a FO (obviously I don't expect anyone to trust me to finish their product) or 2 skeins of yarn. Amanda, I owe you your yarn for your longies, and a refund/payment in yarn for your YYMN slot that you purchased.

I see now that I did take advantage of my friends, and all the while I felt bashed and battered, and it was me in the wrong. and I'm really sorry.

[kimanalynn]

erin, I didn't know about the length issue. I remember being told that one leg was one row shorter than the other, but I count my rows so I knew they were the same length; I didnt' know it was a significant difference. I don'tk now what happened with that; I'm sorry. I thought the problem was the trim for the cuff, that you didn't want and I didnt know. The trade was for the shirt swap, which you did for me, and then I sent you some fabric that you were oging to make a dress out of for me. like I said, I was given a price that I owed you from the mod to pay you back; I ASSumed that you were keeping my fabric and weren't sending me the dress. I thought we were square. please let me know what would make it square for you.

Joanna, I have a DC here for you somehwere; I'm actually surprised you havent' gotten yours in yet. I did mail them in december before christmas

[supergirljennie]

That was a much better apology. :)

We know you have had a hard time for several months and were very understanding because of it. I can't speak for everyone, but I think most of us that were your friends would have been willing to wait longer for you if you had just kept in communication. You got defensive very quickly and were acting out on all of us. We were never out to get you; it was just that because you were losing your house, there was a very real possibility that you could just disappear with literally a thousand dollars worth of yarn/services. You certainly can't blame us for worrying. We just wanted to sort everything out. :hugs:

I am fine with the yarn I received now; all I really wanted was an apology.

Congrats on having another boy; that's exactly what you wanted. I have always wished the best for you.

[Stephy]

that was a much better apology imo
and I have to agree with Jeanie your Friends would have done almost anything for you. You just pushed us away then abused us badly.

My issue isn`t money or really yarn it was more of a moral issue. I know you where in a very low point in life but still.

I also tried shipping you a package to the addy you provided in email awhile ago and it has since been returned to me (marked return to sender) so I am not sure whats up with that nor am I sure what to do with this whole linen stitch issue we have. I won`t go into detail on here but its a huge mess ( I have however frogged that yarn since I was told they where not in the correct size needed ( they where done to the size you told me where needed for lauryn though I still have the pm on ds) and that yarn looked different from what they said was sent to you for there slot ). That momma and I have worked out a way to fix it between the two of us since neither (her or I )where at fault but anyway its still a mess and I am extremely hurt on how you did this.

I am glad your stepping up and seeing that what was done and how it was done was wrong and I hope things get taken care of.

[Sanity]

i wish there was baby rogaine, shes almost a year and virtually no hair

Don't worry about it, My DD was bald as a frakking cue ball until she was 2, and THEN she started getting these dark brown little curls in the back of her head... and now that she is nearly 8 she has a HUGE thick mass (although mess is more appropriate) of hair she neither wants us to cut nor brush

[BuggaBuggaBoutique]

i know im new and im sorry if this is out of line but i feel like it should be mentioned if nothing else to make me ( and some others who agree ) feel better that this is known. not so that something can happen from the information but just to make it known that all is not peachy keen..

I feel that Amanda's " mod freind on another forum" is partaking in a serious conflict of interests by doing what she's doing to "help" amanda out , to someone who doesnt know all the details from more than one party may look at the "work" of said freind as the law becuase of her moderator postition , and having said that and re-read it , it may not seem like much to most but , to know these people "personally" (well as much as you can talking daily for a year ) and the nature of the relationship it is not as clean as you would expect that a moderator is handling a transaction dispute. i mean if i messed up, waited months and then said well it's all good cause my friend Mc Moddy Mod Mod is taking care of it.. that would be okay?


. to many who were done dirty in these dealings, we were her friends, talked daily out of main forums.. we all trusted each other , and the thing that bothered us mostly was the deceit , we had a separate forum to chat without heavy moderation by another site ;) and she would log in regularly to lurk i assume all the while this was when she was claiming no internet/communication .. it's just shady and i am really sad for friends who got the dirty end of the stick in all this , we all gave her the benefit of the doubt but piece by piece she blew that away ..

exactly! those of us on that forum i think would all agree with that

[luvmykiddoes]

I'm here. I'll be making a list. I'll be doing everything I can to make this as right as can possibly be; I dont' expect hurt feelings to just go away.

I think I might have been so wrapped up, tangled up in ME, that I totally missed how hurt all my friends were in this. :( I'm sorry mamas. All of you were such good friends to me, and it shames me to know that you think that i really was going to not finish any of this. I know all of ya'll hate me/have written me off, and I guess I have to be ok with that. I loved all of you, and truely, I apologize for putting anybody through anything they went through. Not my intention whatsoever.

And I have to say, however bad it makes me look, it didn't cross my mind to repay the shipping for the big box of stuff that went out. It went out, I had a sigh of relief that that stuff was out of my house, and I just felt like it was done. I need to finish up with -
Amanda
Another Amanda
Jennie
"purseaddict"

I owe the bottom 3 either a FO (obviously I don't expect anyone to trust me to finish their product) or 2 skeins of yarn. Amanda, I owe you your yarn for your longies, and a refund/payment in yarn for your YYMN slot that you purchased.

I see now that I did take advantage of my friends, and all the while I felt bashed and battered, and it was me in the wrong. and I'm really sorry.
I haven't written you off Amanda. I have just always been waiting and hoping it would all come together in the end. For your sake and everyone else. I really don't think you set out to scam anyone intentionally. I think your circumstances caught up with you and overwhelmed you a lot and you shut down. The first step in rectifying the situation is to recognize your mistakes (which you have by your post above), then fix them, then wait until things get better. We all care/cared for you a great deal. I don't think anyone ever wanted it to come to this.

[BuggaBuggaBoutique]

I'm glad Amanda seem to be making an effort :) :clap: :)

[luvmykiddoes]

After reading through this the past couple of days I was just thinking that I hope another positive thing comes out of this too. That being, the newer mamas see how wonderfully things are handled on this site and that they decide to stick around and hang out here more.

I'm not bashing any other sites but I think dealing with things in the open and asking as many questions as possible before banning a member speaks volumes to the integrity of a website and dedication of it's moderators.

Thanks ladies.
I do like how things are moderated here. However, DS does a pretty good job of moderating as well. It's just done in private so other parties aren't involved to "fuel the fire" so to speak. It is nice to see that no one is really bashing here. It actually seems to be a very productive moderation process thus far.

[ammcmaho]

I'm glad Amanda seem to be making an effort :) :clap: :)
Thank you Amanda. I received the yarn and I can wait a bit on the "payment" yarn for the YYMN - V is mostly PL and I'm due just before you in May.

[Stacylicious]

I do like how things are moderated here. However, DS does a pretty good job of moderating as well. It's just done in private so other parties aren't involved to "fuel the fire" so to speak. It is nice to see that no one is really bashing here. It actually seems to be a very productive moderation process thus far.

When someone gets called out here the other mamas seem to genuinely want them to come forward, make it right and then move on. I'm sure there are some hard feelings and not everyone makes it right but if they do they seem to be accepted back again.

[luvmykiddoes]

When someone gets called out here the other mamas seem to genuinely want them to come forward, make it right and then move on. I'm sure there are some hard feelings and not everyone makes it right but if they do they seem to be accepted back again.
I did notice that with another hot seat thread I read. I think if the person called out really wants to do what is right, then that is great.

[erinkimberley17]

erin, I didn't know about the length issue. I remember being told that one leg was one row shorter than the other, but I count my rows so I knew they were the same length; I didnt' know it was a significant difference. I don'tk now what happened with that; I'm sorry. I thought the problem was the trim for the cuff, that you didn't want and I didnt know. The trade was for the shirt swap, which you did for me, and then I sent you some fabric that you were oging to make a dress out of for me. like I said, I was given a price that I owed you from the mod to pay you back; I ASSumed that you were keeping my fabric and weren't sending me the dress. I thought we were square. please let me know what would make it square for you.

Joanna, I have a DC here for you somehwere; I'm actually surprised you havent' gotten yours in yet. I did mail them in december before christmas


it wasnt length it was the width...but alas....thank you for the apology, thats all i needed...you do what you think is right to make it right but i think most of us were more hurt about the moral of it then the actual items

[Sanity]

I do like how things are moderated here. However, DS does a pretty good job of moderating as well. It's just done in private so other parties aren't involved to "fuel the fire" so to speak. It is nice to see that no one is really bashing here. It actually seems to be a very productive moderation process thus far.

We try to be. ;)

[supergirljennie]

I did want to ask about a YYMN you donated to Katie's charity fund raising (can't remember which congo it was on). I know the mama was on DS and that she didn't get it. Did she at least receive the yarn?

And I have to ask, why didn't you just respond on DS to everything? Why not enter into mediation?

[Shaineinok]

I'm here. I'll be making a list. I'll be doing everything I can to make this as right as can possibly be; I dont' expect hurt feelings to just go away.

I think I might have been so wrapped up, tangled up in ME, that I totally missed how hurt all my friends were in this. :( I'm sorry mamas. All of you were such good friends to me, and it shames me to know that you think that i really was going to not finish any of this. I know all of ya'll hate me/have written me off, and I guess I have to be ok with that. I loved all of you, and truely, I apologize for putting anybody through anything they went through. Not my intention whatsoever.

And I have to say, however bad it makes me look, it didn't cross my mind to repay the shipping for the big box of stuff that went out. It went out, I had a sigh of relief that that stuff was out of my house, and I just felt like it was done. I need to finish up with -
Amanda
Another Amanda
Jennie
"purseaddict"

I owe the bottom 3 either a FO (obviously I don't expect anyone to trust me to finish their product) or 2 skeins of yarn. Amanda, I owe you your yarn for your longies, and a refund/payment in yarn for your YYMN slot that you purchased.

I see now that I did take advantage of my friends, and all the while I felt bashed and battered, and it was me in the wrong. and I'm really sorry.

I am glad to see this Amanda. Here's to getting it all worked out and back on the right track.

[kimanalynn]

I did want to ask about a YYMN you donated to Katie's charity fund raising (can't remember which congo it was on). I know the mama was on DS and that she didn't get it. Did she at least receive the yarn?

And I have to ask, why didn't you just respond on DS to everything? Why not enter into mediation?

That was the yarn I sent you with your copper patina; you told me to send it to you so you could get it to her. I thought I had put a note in with it; I put a note in all the bags trying to at least try to explain, and apologize, for what was going on. And I did respond to mediation, once I think, but my internet was cut off before we moved out of the house.

I would like to say, also, I really appreciate all the positive encouragement I'm getting right now. You guys really are helping me through this.

[Mom]

Amanda, thank you. I hope that you can make this right.


as for the way we handle call outs vs how DS handles call outs. Who cares.

I wish like nothing else that we were able to work together with DS in things like this. Just to protect members on each board. Because that's what's most important.

:carryon:

[_melody_]

The really cool thing is that we do things our way and they do things their way, and people have a selection of boards to choose from. There are some really nice people at DS who consider it their home, just as there are here. There are several other diaper boards too, which are also filled with nice people. It's really wonderful that people are able to find somewhere that they can be comfortable no matter what their "style" of forum life is. We just want to make sure that the community is as safe as it can be for all the users of ALL the boards. I think we are helping in that effort right now, as we all work together to resolve these issues.

[supergirljennie]

That was the yarn I sent you with your copper patina; you told me to send it to you so you could get it to her. I thought I had put a note in with it; I put a note in all the bags trying to at least try to explain, and apologize, for what was going on. And I did respond to mediation, once I think, but my internet was cut off before we moved out of the house.

I would like to say, also, I really appreciate all the positive encouragement I'm getting right now. You guys really are helping me through this.

Eeek! There was no note in my package; I thought you had just sent something since I thought perhaps you had already used/redistributed the payment yarn. I'm looking at the listing and it was in fact the yarn.

I traded that yarn with ammcmaho on here. Amanda (ammcmaho), do you still have that yarn or have you sent it to be worked up for the boy you are carrying already? I feel terrible about it now. :( I will gladly send you the yarn we traded back so we can get that yarn to the right person. If it's already being/been worked up, I will contact the winner and work something out. :(

[Stephy]

Jeanie I can`t help with the yarn issue but if that momma that won the YYMN slot would still like a slot have her pm me I would be happy to knit her a pair up.

[Mom]

I do have to say I like the way some of you are working together to help each other out.

Thanks y'all for not turning this into a nightmare.

[shaynelemaster]

yikes that a mess with that yarn Jennie but IMO i dont think you should be out anything cause of the mistake

[kimanalynn]

No, I agree, Jennie; LMK what I can do to send out to make it right.

[cheesewhiz]

Egads. :speechless: :shakehead:

I for one am very glad that I have nothing more to ad then the above-posted smilies. Sorry to the mamas who do. :sigh:
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I hope everything is made right.

[Sakura]

I am really happy to see things are getting worked out. Hopefully everything is resolved quickly and fairly for all parties involved.

[supergirljennie]

So then, yes, Amanda, you do owe me two skeins since the yarn I thought was intended for me wasn't, lol.

[erinkimberley17]

Egads. :speechless: :shakehead:

I for one am very glad that I have nothing more to ad then the above-posted smilies. Sorry to the mamas who do. :sigh:
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I hope everything is made right.


me too, the ball is in her court

[ammcmaho]

the yarn jennie and i traded is knit up but i can see if it can be frogged as it isn't done (eevaleena from somapants has it). she's local so i can probably get it from her or we can figure something out.

[supergirljennie]

I don't think you should have to frog it. I think Amanda should contact the winner, explain the situation, and work something out with her. But of course that's just MHO.

[ammcmaho]

whichever. they're for a baby due in may so i'm willing to wait if need be, but i'm not sure if the other mom wants frogged stuff!

[Leininger27]

I still would be like an answer as to why you decided to sneak around and open a second account on CC when your first username was never deactivated or banned.

Also why no apology was ever sent to the people on CC or any explanation AT ALL as to why you didn't complete the swaps.

Had it not been from a DS mod contacting me I still would have been out of the loop. I sent several pms to you on CC asking for an update as did your partners. I even tried tracking your down to DS which is when I you had been banned from there.

WE had a transaction going on even.

You know darn well when entering into the Jan 1 MM coop that you had unresolved transactions yet your STILL purchased $60 in yarn. That tells me personally you just didn't care. You also put in colorway requests for MM2 coop on that opens Jan 15 as well as the sugarbubbie coop coming up. If ANYONE was out money because of me I would be doing EVERYTHING in my power to make things right. Certainly not buying more yarn or buying anything for that matter.

[Rocket Queen]

erin, I didn't know about the length issue. I remember being told that one leg was one row shorter than the other, but I count my rows so I knew they were the same length; I didnt' know it was a significant difference. I don'tk now what happened with that; I'm sorry. I thought the problem was the trim for the cuff, that you didn't want and I didnt know. The trade was for the shirt swap, which you did for me, and then I sent you some fabric that you were oging to make a dress out of for me. like I said, I was given a price that I owed you from the mod to pay you back; I ASSumed that you were keeping my fabric and weren't sending me the dress. I thought we were square. please let me know what would make it square for you.

Joanna, I have a DC here for you somehwere; I'm actually surprised you havent' gotten yours in yet. I did mail them in december before christmas

Somehow, don't ask me how, even if you count rows, you can still have length issues. Trust me. I've had it happen a lot. MEASURE!

[isaacsmomma]

I was referred from DS to CDN about an Issue involving Kimanalyn. I did receive my money back through paypal dispute and finally got my yarn back but had to pay shipping.
I would be happy to provide more details if needed. Just let me know.

[isaacsmomma]

I attempted a post but it didn't seem to happen.

[erinkimberley17]

it was the width...not the length but either way they are way off

[Sakura]

it was the width...not the length but either way they are way off
Not saying she was right or that she shouldn't fix them but have you tried blocking them a bit bigger? I know when I knit for my dd sometimes I have a momentary lapse in memory (shes got chunkalicious thighs) and I have to end up stretching the thighs during blocking.

[erinkimberley17]

yup tried that before i sent to a different knitter, she said one leg width was about 20 stiches smaller than the other

[_melody_]

I attempted a post but it didn't seem to happen.

It shows now. You were in moderation, since you have been inactive. I have reactivated your account. Welcome back. :)

[Rocket Queen]

yup tried that before i sent to a different knitter, she said one leg width was about 20 stiches smaller than the other

Yeah, width = not paying a damn bit of attention. Especially if it was 20 stitches different. Geeze. :shakehead:

[Sakura]

yup tried that before i sent to a different knitter, she said one leg width was about 20 stiches smaller than the other
Wow thats a huge error on her part.

[isaacsmomma]

I haven't read this whole thred but can someone tell me, should I?

[*Elf*]

I haven't read this whole thred but can someone tell me, should I?

it is quite interesting :toofunny:

goes off topic a few times but all in all its cool
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okay I think that was the wrong smilie, sorry, not used to the smilies yet

[kimanalynn]

Jennie, if you have the contact info for the winner of that auction, could you please forward it to me so I can get in touch with her?

Jodi, I have no excuse. I didn't know about the PMs, as I never even logged back into CC even when I got my internet back up. I sent the yarn and everything back to the mod to return to april; I included a note in the yarn to try to let her know how sorry I was for the delay in getting everything back to her, and being unable to complete them.

Erin, I am completely shocked about the longies! I honestly didn't know about the width, and I don't see how I made that mistake, unless I somehow didn't get the gusset centered, which I feel as if I would have noticed, and feel horrible for not noticing if that is what happened. I mean, each leg has an even number of stitches when I graft the crotch, and then I pick up the same number of stitches on each side. I'm really sorry. :(

[erinkimberley17]

oy ve, i dont even know what to say...i told you, sent you the pic, you told me to block it and you didnt have time to frog them

:shakinghead:

[shaynelemaster]

i personally remember , i was talking to Erin while she was floored on the way you acted Amanda. she was on YIM with me same time she was contacting you... it's my part in all this.. i was a friend of all so i heard everyone's side and took it all in , during the beginning with a very UN biased ear..


so with what i know about this.. that is not the truth, she made it clear to you and if im not mistaken posted pictures as well that the problem was width. and your reply basically was, you dont have time to mess with it

[Leininger27]

So apparently emails didn't work either since you get an email for every pm?

You still went as far as to create a NEW username at CC. So obviously you had the intent of coming back to CC so why with a new name? Why try and be deceitful. Why not own up and say hey I screwed up. I did some people wrong here and would like to apologize.

I just don't understand at all. I have done several transactions with you on HC and CC which is why I entered into a 3rd with you. Am I just a big b!tch that wouldn't understand?!?!

Did your partner not deserve a pm with an apology. Did the person that worked to angel swap for April not deserve a big fricking THANK YOU for doing your job??

Are you telling me the entire time I have been here that you never thought hey maybe I should pm her and apologize for what happened on CC. You would have continued on the same path and pretended like nothing happened had I not pm'd Mom with a heads up. Glad to see others came forward as well because I for one am glad this is finally out.

It sucks that people have to track you down to other forums.

[~LiLaC~]

oy ve, i dont even know what to say...i told you, sent you the pic, you told me to block it and you didnt have time to frog them

:shakinghead:

Wow, thats not cool

[mommyof8]

I admit now, Amanda, I should have just paid you back for the longies and sent you your yarn; I really thought I was going to be able to finish them. If you will still take payment in yarn, I will send you yarn.

i have been offering to accept yarn as a refund since October. I believe you have my address still and if not you can pm me or email me for it.

[erinkimberley17]

i have been offering to accept yarn as a refund since October. I believe you have my address still and if not you can pm me or email me for it.


i wanted to believe the apology at first now it just sounds like shes saying what people want to hear :sigh:

[isaacsmomma]

I went and looked up my shipping costs and it is 16.15.
I worked a long time to collect all those Marr Haven scraps and had been burned in a transaction with another knitter. I was very afraid but you came highly recommended and I was assured you were up and up. And then months of nothing. This was to be a gift for my son and of course that did not happen. I was VERY happy to get the wool returned even if we had to pay for it. How ever if you are making things right I think shipping costs should be paid.

[mommyof8]

Im confused...It was my understanding that sarah (treasures from elf) paid the shipping from kimanalynn to jo (icanonlyimagine) and then everyone else was supposed to pay shipping from jo to themselves for their items...$16.15 seems like alot to pay in shipping for return if it was just from jo to you...what was the $16.15 for??

[luvmykiddoes]

Oh my goodness. What a complete and utter mess. Amanda you are not being honest at all. Erin told you about the longies. She even posted it on the board that YOU created and we were all friends and members of. I was also on YIM with Erin when she got the longies and she was devastated. You tried to make it sound like Erin was nuts and that she was out of line for calling you out on them. The only way you are going to make things better is if you truely recognize you have done many people wrong, be honest, and then fix the problem.

While I don't have anymore problems with you myself, because you did finally send the longies to me, there are still so many that do. Please, do the right thing.

[isaacsmomma]

Im confused...It was my understanding that sarah (treasures from elf) paid the shipping from kimanalynn to jo (icanonlyimagine) and then everyone else was supposed to pay shipping from jo to themselves for their items...$16.15 seems like alot to pay in shipping for return if it was just from jo to you...what was the $16.15 for??
I am confused also.
When the package was returned to Jo with some peoples items sealed inside we were asked to contribute to the shipping to Jo. So that includes shipping to Jo from Amanda and then shipping to the new knitter, Steph.

[mommyof8]

I am confused also.
When the package was returned to Jo with some peoples items sealed inside we were asked to contribute to the shipping to Jo. So that includes shipping to Jo from Amanda and then shipping to the new knitter, Steph.


hmm...so you paid jo for shipping from amanda to her but sarah originally paid the shipping from amanda to jo....Maybe its cuz its past my bedtime but something seems off there...

[isaacsmomma]

hmm...so you paid jo for shipping from amanda to her but sarah originally paid the shipping from amanda to jo....Maybe its cuz its past my bedtime but something seems off there...

Okay, agreed, so what are you saying?

[mommyof8]

Okay, agreed, so what are you saying?


like I said maybe its way past my bedtime but it seems like someone overpaid on shipping somewhere...

If Sarah sent Jo PP to cover the shipping from Amanda to Jo then it dont make sense that you had to pay the shipping from Amanda to Jo unless Jo refunded Sarahs initial payment but it dont sound like she did...

[supergirljennie]

Speaking from Jo...

Shipping was so much because $7 was for reimbursement for shipping to Jo which she repaid to Elf I believe, and the remainder was shipping to Stephy. Your scrappies totaled 1.5lbs and were mailed priority at your request.

[*Elf*]

Speaking from Jo...

Shipping was so much because $7 was for reimbursement for shipping to Jo which she repaid to Elf I believe, and the remainder was shipping to Stephy. Your scrappies totaled 1.5lbs and were mailed priority at your request.

I have not been repaid for shipping at all. If I had I would not have even brought shipping into this thread (I would have stayed out of the thread completely)

[isaacsmomma]

Speaking from Jo...

Shipping was so much because $7 was for reimbursement for shipping to Jo which she repaid to Elf I believe, and the remainder was shipping to Stephy. Your scrappies totaled 1.5lbs and were mailed priority at your request.
Right, I new my shipping was high because of my package weight but that I also happily chipped in to pay for the big box to be shipped to jo. It was not until tonight, I think, that we were aware that Sarah also paid for shipping to Jo. I did not mind helping recover that cost. I wanted my wool back and am happy that it happened.

[supergirljennie]

It's actually a little more complicated than that... I paid OOP for shipping to Jo, and Sarah paid Jo who in turn paid me. But the reimbursement money should go to Sarah, absolutely. I'm not sure if anyone else offered to chip in. My items went in another mama's package.

[Leininger27]

I have not been repaid for shipping at all. If I had I would not have even brought shipping into this thread (I would have stayed out of the thread completely)

rut row raggy...

[shaynelemaster]

isnt Jo on here... could she provide some shipping clarification... ?

[kukukachoo]

:woh:can someone make us a flow chart or something?

[*Elf*]

rut row raggy...

See it is a little past my bedtime, but what does "rut row raggy" mean?

[mommyof8]

See it is a little past my bedtime, but what does "rut row raggy" mean?


its from scooby doo!