Ahavati / Cassandra -- Please join us here.

[Mom]

I regret that it is necessary to do this so soon after you had your baby, but you did bring this upon yourself. Congrats on that and I hope everything is well with you and the baby. That being said...

When you joined us I was directed to a thread on DS that was all about you and how you owed people money but had disappeared. You can find that thread here (http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=857541&highlight=chavah). I received several pm's from members here about you. I then PM'ed you and asked about the thread on DS. You assured me that you had taken care of everything there, and that you would continue to take care of anything else that came up.


Yesterday that thread on DS was bumped again. There are at least 2 women there who haven't received their stuff. I contacted both off board and had them look at your FSOT thread here (http://clothdiapernation.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=54806). One of them informed me that the first 3 shirts, the twilight themed ones, are indeed the shirts that she paid $45 for and never got. She and the other person filed PP claims and both won, but you closed that account so they never received their refunds. Those refunds should have totalled $75.

Also there's a thread on HC directed to you it can be found here (http://hyenacart.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=1406659#1406659).

So now it seems there are many more people that you have taken orders from, and you have not sent their orders nor refunded them.

As of now, I will be placing you in the BST with Caution user group. I have to say that we are very disappointed in all this, and cannot wait to hear what you have to say about it.

[MooseDon'tWearDiapers]

:( I was really saddened to read that yesterday on the blog. I hope Cass makes it right ASAP.

[army mommy of 5]

:sigh: It just never ends.

[Rocket Queen]

I read the JA Report with this face... :speechless: Hope she makes this right.

[honeychild]

Just saw the JAR. That's too bad.

[sciencefair]

The fact that we need this thread makes me sad. I hope she makes things right because I like her.

[CrunchyMaineMama]

:sigh:

[bearista]

I read the JA Report with this face... :speechless: Hope she makes this right.

I did the same thing. :(

[BeccatheGreat]

:(

[*Cassie*]

:no:
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:shake:

[PipersMomma]

Its about time she gets called out for all this crap. :twitch:

[Picklesnapper]

It's unfortunate that we have to have threads like these. But it's necessary. I do hope that all is well with your and your new bundle, and I hope that you will be coming to make this right asap.

[grace_n_josie]

:gaah: Thank you Sam...

[Sakura]

Color me shocked. Hopefully she makes good and everything is resolved peacefully when she gets back.

[Shopaholic]

wow. I bought a huge box of boys' clothes from her w/o any problems and she included freebies. this really suprises me.

[Manda00]

Color me shocked. Hopefully she makes good and everything is resolved peacefully when she gets back.

:yeahthat:

[MRBLayaw]

I've been leery of her since she joined because of all the crap on DS and HC. I'll be shocked if she comes back. She seems to be a pro at the vanishing act and running from her issues. Having a baby is a perfect disguise for running from this one, too. :looky:

[Shopaholic]

I never knew there was a history of issues at all.

[Messy]

:( Hate that we have to have these kind of threads, but love that CDN is upfront and doing things to keep us from being scammed. TY Sam!

[aufrog]

:shakehead:

[MooseDon'tWearDiapers]

I never knew of anything either. I haven't been on DS in a while.

Once again reminded of why I'm glad I rarely b/s/t. :sigh: Seems you can't trust hardly anyone anymore.

[mockingbird]

Unfortunately, I'm one of the mamas waiting for merchandise, a refund, or just her to tell me to bug off she's not going to honor the money I paid her. I ordered 2 shirts on April 13 and communication with her was very slow but friendly. In October she promised me a refund but it never came. I asked about it and she said it would be when her husband got paid, November 5. That date came and went with no refund and all attempts to communicate with her and beg her to make it right have failed. She won't respond.

Cassandra - you can email me through this site if you have the integrity to make things right. Or, you can respond to one of my numerous emails. I would love for this to be resolved. My irritation is huge. I try very hard to use WAHMs and I know there is a slight risk but most of us would never dream of stealing from other mamas.
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I can't figure out where to edit a message....I ordered on August, not April, 13.

[Cynthia]

Unbelievable! :shakinghead:

I hope you get resolution mockingbird :hugs:

Thanks Mom for being on top of things once again!

[jenniferjunniper]

Wow! I am shocked. I am sorry for all of the mamas waiting for resolution.

[~Jessica~]

:( I remember some of these issues from DS :( I hope all can be made right for these mamas!

[BackLitLeo]

Wow. :(

[jennifrog]

I was really surprised when I read about this on the blog and now here :( I remember when she disappeared on DS but I never connected the 2 different names. I do hope she comes back and makes things right.

[Snangel]

I read the JA Report with this face... :speechless: Hope she makes this right.

:sigh: i am doing that right now....wow. thanks again sam for all you do i can't imagine being in your shoes.

Unfortunately, I'm one of the mamas waiting for merchandise, a refund, or just her to tell me to bug off she's not going to honor the money I paid her. I ordered 2 shirts on April 13 and communication with her was very slow but friendly. In October she promised me a refund but it never came. I asked about it and she said it would be when her husband got paid, November 5. That date came and went with no refund and all attempts to communicate with her and beg her to make it right have failed. She won't respond.

Cassandra - you can email me through this site if you have the integrity to make things right. Or, you can respond to one of my numerous emails. I would love for this to be resolved. My irritation is huge. I try very hard to use WAHMs and I know there is a slight risk but most of us would never dream of stealing from other mamas.
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I can't figure out where to edit a message....I ordered on August, not April, 13.

there is no edit button here, it helps people own what they say without the option of just deleting it.

welcome to cdn! and i'm sorry you got scammed :(

[Cootie Queen]

Well it's about time....

[AJ'sMama]

I was shocked when I read this on the blog as well. :( I hope Cassandra can make things right and continue to be a member of this board, I really like her. Best of luck with the new baby!

[romanlili]

I'm shocked by this. I had no idea she had issues before and did a trade with her that went really well. So I am saddened by this.

And the feedback I left her for out trade should be a positive not a neutral.

[*~*Amanda*~*]

I've been leery of her since she joined because of all the crap on DS and HC. I'll be shocked if she comes back. She seems to be a pro at the vanishing act and running from her issues. Having a baby is a perfect disguise for running from this one, too. :looky:

According to her husbands twitter page, she is likely has a baby right now.

I thought the same things as some have mentioned about the baby but just wanted to put it out there that it looks like she is having a baby today.
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Wow. My typos are getting on my nerves :twitch:

[Teeniebean]

:(

[marchstarz]

I'm the customer with the three t-shirts that she is actually trying to sell, for half what I already paid her. Pretty awesome. :shakehead:

First. I would hope that she knows what she did is illegal. The payment made to her is considered a legally binding contract. At this point, she has two options, to credit the money I paid in full, or render services. Which, kids grow and there is no way my kids would fit into those shirts, nor would I be able to sell them for what I paid for them.

As a WAHM. I understand feeling a little overwhelmed sometimes. BUT, if you look at her customs list on HC...:shocked:...here (http://hyenacart.com/Chavvahbaby/index.php?info=666) unless she was doing a coop of some sort that she knew she'd have time for. That, is insane. I have a max of four people on my customs list at one time (each ordering one thing) any more than that and I would lose my mind. Even though it stinks saying no to potential customers...it's a good business practice. Once I finish with what I have, I have the ability to take on someone else. That way I have no unhappy customers waiting months and months for a product.

Like a true scammer, she'll gain all of your trust and once you've all ordered something from her and she has a good amount of $ in her PP account, she'll just leave. Looks like that is what she did on DS and chances are good, since she had no issues taking off with other peoples money from there and HC, she'll probably do it again. Or she'll just change her S/N.

Regardless. I'm sure most people would agree, it's easier to face your demons now than to let them sit and not deal with them at all. They'll always come back to haunt you. I hope she faces this, but after her complete lack of communication and vanishing act in the past, I'm not crossing my fingers.

[_melody_]

I'm shocked by this. I had no idea she had issues before and did a trade with her that went really well. So I am saddened by this.

And the feedback I left her for out trade should be a positive not a neutral.

Fixed that for you. :)

[romanlili]

Fixed that for you. :)

Oh, thanks!

Not like it matters now I suppose. :sigh:

[Ahavati]

I car inane tried to update my other thread but was directed here instead. I AM still in labor. My DR tried to let me go on my own, didn't happen. So now I'm on pit and waiting for things to progress.

I was never going to 'run off' and I AM having my baby. It's not a convenient excuse :sigh: I can post my arm bands or a pic of whatever if anyone doesnt believe me.

I did not intentionally scam anyone. I got very overwhelmed because I took on too many customs and then was newely PG. I took care of all but 2 from what I remember. I even refunded ppl and still gave them their stuff.

My intentions with the last two was to send with my tax refund. That has had issues delaying it and we are waiting. I put us in a hole refunding all that I did before. My DH just got a better job so I was planning to get somethings caught up abd then send their refunds. I also planned to send a bit more than their refund just to make ammends.

I know I got behind and screwed up and I own it. I'm just trying to get in a better situation to refund them. And the shirts that I am selling were no customs whatsoever. I didn't get that mamas order of shirts in so I didn't have them done. It is all stuff tgat I had stockier in my stores and congos. As well as seconds from when I was trying to get things set up.

I do apologize, I do own it and will be refunding these last 2 soon. By the 1st at tge latest since I'm still hung up on my refund. But at this moment I can't do anything until the end of the week because I'm in labor now having my baby.

It never crossed my mind to use having my baby as an excuse and never coming back. :( I like it here and have stayed on top of all transactions I've had here. I have no intention of doing any WAHM stuff here. And I don't ho to DS because my computer did get completely screwed up. I signed on once from someonelses vomp to just delete my sig and avi.

To the mama that just bought from me, they will go out Mon/Tues. Whatever day I get home from the hospital. I couldn't get it out yesterday or today for obvious reasons.
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Sorry for typos, I'm on the phone and typing between cntrx

[marchstarz]

It's kind of weird that those are the exact same shirts and the exact same sizes I ordered from you.

I don't believe in coincidence.

[Ahavati]

If you look up the twilight stocking HE Congo had, those are the exact ones. Anyone can pull the time off the pics of when they were taken and prove it was before that transaction.

[Lolanae]

:sigh:

[Lacey]

:sigh:

this

[Sakura]

If you look up the twilight stocking HE Congo had, those are the exact ones. Anyone can pull the time off the pics of when they were taken and prove it was before that transaction.
Well if they are the same ones that a customer who had not received their items had ordered, wouldn't it make more sense to send those out instead of selling them on FSOT. Idk cus while Im sympathetic to the fact you are in labor and you came to the thread while in labor, it just seems like more excuses.

[HealingPixie]

I am not understanding why refunds could not just be made. If the buyer paid via pp, then just hit issue refund? Am I missing something? (there is no snark in that- just asking a valid question)

If I give you $5 for a product, but you do not send/do not have the product then you should have my $5 to issue back to me.

[mockingbird]

It would have been pretty easy to email me and let me know that you were planning on a refund when your taxes came back. I'm leary...but hey...if you're going to finally make good on it that's great. I'm still surprised at your lack of communication.
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I just wanted to add that if you can get on the phone and post to a message board when in labor it seems that at some point a note to me would have been really easy.

As soon as I have my refund I'll stop warning people about you.

[Deadbeat Daddy]

Well if they are the same ones that a customer who had not received their items had ordered, wouldn't it make more sense to send those out instead of selling them on FSOT. Idk cus while Im sympathetic to the fact you are in labor and you came to the thread while in labor, it just seems like more excuses.

:headscratch: yeah this is what I'm thinking?

This is why you NEVER spend the money you receive for a custom, until the product arrives at its new home... this whole situation just seems really odd to me. Crappy timing as you are in labor right now :(

[Ahavati]

Because they are not the exact ones she wanted. Iirc she had ALL neurtra color shirts and ink. And all one size.

And I could refund because I had sent $150+ in refunds at the time of trying to get everything in order. I put us in a hole and haven't been able to take care of it. It's always on my mind.

And I didn't post being in labor for sympathies. Indont want any. I was saying I came to update my labor thread and couldn't. And so that should I not respond later, I am probably in the middle of giving birth or adjusting.

While it does suck that I read this during labor and it's made me worrisome over this because all I can think of now is this issue, it's my fault and I do own it. I'm not making any excuses.

[marchstarz]

Why do I have to wait THIS long for a refund? Where is the money I paid you? You shouldn't be spending other peoples money before they had a product in their hands and knew that they were pleased with it.

[Ahavati]

*couldn't.
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Why do I have to wait THIS long for a refund? Where is the money I paid you? You shouldn't be spending other peoples money before they had a product in their hands and knew that they were pleased with it.

I understand this and it went to other refunds. I'm sorry. I can't say anything that will make it better. I will refund it as soon as I am back from the hospital. I'm not making any excuses for it.
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I'm going to have to sign off. Tge dr broke my water and the pain is getting to much. I will be back later this evening after we get settled with the baby.

[Mom]

I just want you to know that I never thought you'd disappear, and had I known that they were inducing you today and not yesterday, I would not have posted this yet.

Go have your baby. When you're done I trust you'll be back.

I do so hope that you solve all this, and the issues that are brought up on HC.

Good luck today.

[mockingbird]

Good luck with new baby. I'm looking forward to my refund. DH lost his job so every penny helps.

[randareena]

I hope that the transactions do get resolved and that all does go well with your labor and delivery.

[Mrs.Nicolian]

:( Well, this sucks.

[rmbrasher]

Man - don't be worrying about all this crap while having your baby - this isn't what you need to be coloring your day! Have your baby, enjoy it, and worry about this later!

[jaz]

Man - don't be worrying about all this crap while having your baby - this isn't what you need to be coloring your day! Have your baby, enjoy it, and worry about this later!

Yes, let's be nice to the possible scammer. I liked her too, you know, the short time I've been here. The best part is that she's "had this on her mind" the whole time and yet has not bothered to email or contact anyone about anything until her ass is on the hot seat. I'm sorry, no matter how you play that, that just stinks of scam.

And really, can't she send $5 here and there to provide her bonafide intentions? Oh, right, no she can't - if she did, paypal would link her new PP account with her old one which has several judgements or whatever they are called against it and suck her new account dry and then she wouldn't be able to pull the money out like she did with the old one so her customers couldn't get their money that way.

[ChefWife7]

Yes, let's be nice to the possible scammer. I liked her too, you know, the short time I've been here. The best part is that she's "had this on her mind" the whole time and yet has not bothered to email or contact anyone about anything until her ass is on the hot seat. I'm sorry, no matter how you play that, that just stinks of scam.

And really, can't she send $5 here and there to provide her bonafide intentions? Oh, right, no she can't - if she did, paypal would link her new PP account with her old one which has several judgements or whatever they are called against it and suck her new account dry and then she wouldn't be able to pull the money out like she did with the old one so her customers couldn't get their money that way.


I agree that the things she has been accused of is wrong and sad that she got herself over her head, but right now she really does NOT need to be thinking about this she is having a baby a stressed out mama is NOT good for the baby it's not just about her right now she needs to think of her baby with out worrying about this right now let her have her baby in peace and deal with this when she is back home

[Lolanae]

I agree that the things she has been accused of is wrong and sad that she got herself over her head, but right now she really does NOT need to be thinking about this she is having a baby a stressed out mama is NOT good for the baby it's not just about her right now she needs to think of her baby with out worrying about this right now let her have her baby in peace and deal with this when she is back home

:yeahthat:

Scammerish ways or not...there is an unborn/soon to be born babe in this mix. Cass needs to focus on that right now. I understand people being out money, trust me. I do hope Cass honors her word to come back once she and the babe are settled.

[nini02]

Yes, let's be nice to the possible scammer. I liked her too, you know, the short time I've been here. The best part is that she's "had this on her mind" the whole time and yet has not bothered to email or contact anyone about anything until her ass is on the hot seat. I'm sorry, no matter how you play that, that just stinks of scam.

And really, can't she send $5 here and there to provide her bonafide intentions? Oh, right, no she can't - if she did, paypal would link her new PP account with her old one which has several judgements or whatever they are called against it and suck her new account dry and then she wouldn't be able to pull the money out like she did with the old one so her customers couldn't get their money that way.

Honestly, I agree with you 100% - except that we're talking about childbirth. Delivering a baby safely has to take priority at this point. Once that's over and the baby is here and safe, then you bet she needs to get back in here and deal with this stuff asap, and I truly hope she does (and I have a transaction going with her right now, so I do have an iron in this fire).

[MRBLayaw]

Honestly, I don't believe a word of it. You've been flat-out refusing to respond to people regarding transactions for MONTHS. Like a previous poster asked, What was keeping you from actually responding? You clearly were active here all this time, as all of us can attest to, and if you truly were planning to finish refunds when you received your tax return, COMMUNICATE. Instead, you dropped off the face of the planet, and continue to do things like list items on FSOT, etc, that are what other moms ordered and hadn't received, etc. All of this looks VERY negative, no matter how active you are on the forums, or are sweet you are to chat with. You've been the master of dodge-and-dash between DS and HC, who's to say you aren't going to do it again here? Yes, I do hope you have a safe delivery, but I also hope you get your butt back here and make things right with the women whom, at this point, you've stolen from. :twitch:

[hippydippymama]

I hope you have a safe delivery. I think it's very disappointing that it took this thread for you to come forward and face your wrongdoings. :( I wonder how much longer you would have tried to keep it going had Mom not called you out. Good luck with your birth and new baby, hope we see you back here once things are settled.

[marchstarz]

Quote:

Originally Posted by marchstarz
Why do I have to wait THIS long for a refund? Where is the money I paid you? You shouldn't be spending other peoples money before they had a product in their hands and knew that they were pleased with it.

"I understand this and it went to other refunds."

Even better...a Ponzi Scheme.

[*Elf*]

what is Ponzi?

[Jenandfam]

I agree that the things she has been accused of is wrong and sad that she got herself over her head, but right now she really does NOT need to be thinking about this she is having a baby a stressed out mama is NOT good for the baby it's not just about her right now she needs to think of her baby with out worrying about this right now let her have her baby in peace and deal with this when she is back home

She didn't *have* to deal with this right now. She's the one that willingly commented. As sucky as this situation is, honestly, if this were me, this would be the last thing on my mind at this very moment. Mom already said that had she known baby day was today, she would not have posted this today.

[marchstarz]

In order to pay back other customers, she took on more orders so that none of the money would have to come out of her own pocket and so she'd earn more money overall.

[Lacey]

This sucks. I'm sorry for the mamas who have had to deal with this personally.

I'm praying for a healthy baby and mama & for Cass to fix this ASAP.

[rmbrasher]

Man - don't be worrying about all this crap while having your baby - this isn't what you need to be coloring your day! Have your baby, enjoy it, and worry about this later!

Scammer or someone who got in over their heads - either way I think a person deserves to have peace when giving birth to their child - something that is one of the best moments of our lives. Money is just money. There's nothing that she can honestly resolve today so I see no point in continuing to make comments about her character... If she truly wants to make amends, I'm sure she will do so after she enjoys her child. And we should allow her that moment, as she can never have it back...

[ChefWife7]

She didn't *have* to deal with this right now. She's the one that willingly commented. As sucky as this situation is, honestly, if this were me, this would be the last thing on my mind at this very moment. Mom already said that had she known baby day was today, she would not have posted this today.

I was not referring to this being posted. I was referring to the comment about being nice to the scammer.

[Sanity]

Just saw the JAR. That's too bad.

I got the JAR on my blackberry yesterday and I was :shakehead: in surprise....

[ChefWife7]

What the heck is a JAR?

[redfishbluefish]

I agree that the things she has been accused of is wrong and sad that she got herself over her head, but right now she really does NOT need to be thinking about this she is having a baby a stressed out mama is NOT good for the baby it's not just about her right now she needs to think of her baby with out worrying about this right now let her have her baby in peace and deal with this when she is back home

:werd:


I'm :speechless: to say the least.

JAR=Juicy Apple Report
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Cassie-Praying for a healthy babe for you.

[ChefWife7]

What is a juicy apple report?

[Jenga]

Scammer or someone who got in over their heads - either way I think a person deserves to have peace when giving birth to their child - something that is one of the best moments of our lives. Money is just money. There's nothing that she can honestly resolve today so I see no point in continuing to make comments about her character... If she truly wants to make amends, I'm sure she will do so after she enjoys her child. And we should allow her that moment, as she can never have it back...
this.

[redfishbluefish]

Originally Posted by rmbrasher http://clothdiapernation.com/vbforums/images/sehati2/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://clothdiapernation.com/vbforums/showthread.php?p=1178211#post1178211)
Scammer or someone who got in over their heads - either way I think a person deserves to have peace when giving birth to their child - something that is one of the best moments of our lives. Money is just money. There's nothing that she can honestly resolve today so I see no point in continuing to make comments about her character... If she truly wants to make amends, I'm sure she will do so after she enjoys her child. And we should allow her that moment, as she can never have it back..

ITA

[Mrs.Nicolian]

What is a juicy apple report?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=juicy+apple+report

:teehee:

[Roxyrocks]

is there anyone who can copy/paste it I cant see it

[LadyLiz]

is there anyone who can copy/paste it I cant see it
Copy and paste the juicy apple report?

[CommieVegan]

I didn't know she was the same person from Chavah Baby. :speechless:

[mbphoto]

While I never take kindly to the scammers, Cass has been around a really long time. Somehow, I doubt she will disappear and not make right.

[randareena]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=juicy+apple+report

:teehee:

:toofunny:
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=juicy+apple+report

:teehee:

:toofunny::hi5:

[mbphoto]

what is Ponzi?

A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to separate investors from their own money or money paid by subsequent investors, rather than from any actual profit earned or in other words a complete scam. Look up Bernie Madoff. He is the king.

[addiesmommy]

While I never take kindly to the scammers, Cass has been around a really long time. Somehow, I doubt she will disappear and not make right.

I completely agree. She's having a baby right now. That SHOULD be her priority.

[MRBLayaw]

While I never take kindly to the scammers, Cass has been around a really long time. Somehow, I doubt she will disappear and not make right.
Really? Because that's exactly what she did on both HC and DS.

[mbphoto]

Really? Because that's exactly what she did on both HC and DS.

Perhaps I have not delved that far into this. All of these CD forums are so closely intertwined, it is just hard to believe someone who has been around for so long, using the same name, and who has replied to this thread while in labor would just up and disappear.

My apologies, however if I have underestimated the situation, I was attempting to give her the benefit of the doubt.

[Jenga]

Megan, I understand where you are coming from, I really do, but lets give her a few days to have her baby and get settled. Then we'll see what she does.

While it appears she's up and run on DS and HC, she is actually having a baby right now, this current situation does change things. If she doesn't come back or doesn't make right after she's had some family time then I'll be right there with ya.

[PipersMomma]

While I never take kindly to the scammers, Cass has been around a really long time. Somehow, I doubt she will disappear and not make right.

I realize she just had a baby, so I dont expect her to come and comment right now, but in all honesty, it would not shock me IN THE LEAST if she up and disappeared. She used to chat on the BSRB daily chat on DS, for FOREVER. Believe me, I used to be friends with her on there. Until she scammed a fellow friend and wahm out over over $200. So, yeah, It wouldnt shock me at all if she never came back.

But maybe she will. Where will she chat if she screws over everyone else here too? :sigh:

[Jenga]

I realize she just had a baby, so I dont expect her to come and comment right now, but in all honesty, it would not shock me IN THE LEAST if she up and disappeared. She used to chat on the BSRB daily chat on DS, for FOREVER. Believe me, I used to be friends with her on there. Until she scammed a fellow friend and wahm out over over $200. So, yeah, It wouldnt shock me at all if she never came back.

But maybe she will. Where will she chat if she screws over everyone else here too? :sigh:

WOW, that's really sucky.
I'm not her "friend" on here and I haven't been scammed by her, but I really think right now is now the right moment. If she leaves and never comes back people need to file police reports and internet crime reports with the FBI plus negative feedback everywhere. If people did that now they wouldn't be unreasonable, I think. 200 dollars is a lot of money.

Right now just let her have a couple days with her new baby though. She won't be on here anyway in the next couple days, I'm betting.

[SuzieSunshine]

Perhaps I have not delved that far into this. All of these CD forums are so closely intertwined, it is just hard to believe someone who has been around for so long, using the same name, and who has replied to this thread while in labor would just up and disappear.

My apologies, however if I have underestimated the situation, I was attempting to give her the benefit of the doubt.

I get what you're saying, too, Meg. Makes sense to me!


Lots of people make decisions they come to regret, and find themselves not in a position to make them right. Some people just choose not to make it right- and justify to themselves why they "have" to move on. (Personally I think that's the case here, or she would've kept ongoing communications with those last couple transactions)

Some people are just flat-out scammers. I don't get that impression from Cassandra in particular, but if she's done it two other places, that doesn't look good... still. We all make mistakes.

I really hope she fixes hers.

But a new babe and labor DEFINITELY take priority over $100 or whatever the amount in question is, so it's all moot to me. I hope that in a couple of days when she's recovered she can come back, but there's not much more to say! She's said when she gets her taxes, she'll refund, so I guess all there is to do is wait and get confirmation of that, right? :shrug:

[Lolanae]

What some of the BSRB mama's were told about her leaving DS was because the DS e-herpes ate her laptop/computer and that she could not get online there from her phone.

That's what we were told. I know a few mamas that had no problem at all getting to DS from their phones.

It does suck because I used to call Cass a friend. Then over time she dropped all of the BSRB mamas it seems. Folks she used to call friends. It really showed me just how much value she put on the "Friendship."

[melirod]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=juicy+apple+report

:teehee:
:lmao: That's great!
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is there anyone who can copy/paste it I cant see it
Here you go. I removed her last name and email addy from the report. Just didn't feel comfortable posting it. :err:

Name of business: Chavah (or Chavvah?) Baby, AKA Ahavati or CassB
Name of business owner/buyer/ trader(first and last): Cassandra
E-mail address:
eBay user ID: N/A
Date ordered: September 26, 2009
Products/services purchased: 3 Screen print 'twilight' themed T-Shirts
Price paid: $45
Estimated turn around time: 'A couple weeks'
Actual turn around time: Items were never received.
Was product as expected? Never received
If not why? I don't know, there was no communication.
Did you contact the person about the problem(s)? I attempted to contact her several times through Diaper Swappers, but she failed to respond to any of my messages. I then emailed her at the last known email and she didn't respond to any of that.
If so, how did they attempt to resolve? They didn't.
Would you do business with again? Heck no!
Today's date: 3/12/2010

I ordered these in September 2009 through Cass B (owner of Chavvah Baby on HC) on Diaper Swappers. She agreed that even though she was having a couple issues with her pregnancy she would be able to complete these. A month went buy and I attempted to find out what the status was on this item. I received no reply. I continuously tried over the next several weeks to contact her through DS and the email she had provided previously. Then, suddenly her SN on DS changed so I tried to contact her again through that. No reply.

Recently I found out she is on CDN under SN Ahavati SELLING (yes, SELLING) the t-shirts I already paid for.

When I filed with paypal the claim was in my favor, but since she closed her account they were unable to retrieve any of the funds back from her.

[mockingbird]

I agree that today it's not her main priority. However, she has NOT been in labor since October....just sayin...

[honeychild]

I think it is an unfortunate coincidence that this has come to light on the day she is in labor, however, when you don't do the right thing you can't be guaranteed that it won't bite you in the butt at the most inconvenient time. She doesn't have to read this thread today and she shouldn't. It will still be here when she's ready and I'm sure everyone understands that she has to take a few days at least before she is back to respond. I wish her the best today and I hope she comes back to take care of this as soon as she is able.

[addiesmommy]

I agree that today it's not her main priority. However, she has NOT been in labor since October....just sayin...

I agree and I think after she has the baby making things right with those she scammed should take first priority. I just don't think it's productive to cause her undue stress right now while she's trying to birth a baby.

[Picklesnapper]

Because they are not the exact ones she wanted. Iirc she had ALL neurtra color shirts and ink. And all one size.

And I could refund because I had sent $150+ in refunds at the time of trying to get everything in order. I put us in a hole and haven't been able to take care of it. It's always on my mind.

And I didn't post being in labor for sympathies. Indont want any. I was saying I came to update my labor thread and couldn't. And so that should I not respond later, I am probably in the middle of giving birth or adjusting.

While it does suck that I read this during labor and it's made me worrisome over this because all I can think of now is this issue, it's my fault and I do own it. I'm not making any excuses.


I didn't read the other responses. But I do hope that you're doing well and resting up after birth and I hope your baby is healthy and well, too!

All we can do, at this point, is hope that once you're rested and home you will come and make all of this right.

You have to understand, scamming is just not acceptable whatsoever. And when we make these threads our full intentions are to resolve the issue, not make a fool out of the person who is in the wrong. As you know, there's others who have their names in the orange, and they're still a part of our community. So as long as you come back and make things right you will be just fine.

many blessings for you and your new baby! And I hope to see you back to resolve these issues.

[fanciful]

I agree and I think after she has the baby making things right with those she scammed should take first priority. I just don't think it's productive to cause her undue stress right now while she's trying to birth a baby.

I completely agree. The health of the baby is way more important than anything at this exact moment in time.

After she gets settled she needs to get her act together and settle up with people asap without any excuses whatsoever.

[rainydaybaby]

The person that bought the shirts originally-and i apologize for being lazy and not getting your name-could you please explain or verify whether the shirts listed in WAHM are actually the sizes and colors specified in your order? Cass said they are not, you said they are. Thank you.

[Sweetmama26]

This is all very disheartening to hear as she seems like a really nice person. Its unfortunate that she had to deal with this on the day she is having a baby. Hopefully she does make this right though.

[Manda00]

I agree and I think after she has the baby making things right with those she scammed should take first priority. I just don't think it's productive to cause her undue stress right now while she's trying to birth a baby.


Agreed! If this is an old issue (and it is, from what it sounds like), it's tacky timing. There's nothing she can do it about ATM about the transactions. I def. think it should be made right, though.

[_melody_]

Agreed! If this is an old issue (and it is, from what it sounds like), it's tacky timing. There's nothing she can do it about ATM about the transactions. I def. think it should be made right, though.

It may be tacky, but we didn't know she was having her baby today when we put this together, and the person who filed the JAR didn't either. As someone said earlier, it's best to do the right thing, because when you don't, it has a way of coming back to bite you in the butt at the most inconvenient time. Nobody is expecting her to be working on this today, but we DO expect that she will come back as soon as possible to make things right. That is the least she should do considering how long some of these transactions have been open.

[ChickenNoise]

Here's the thing. Not one person, through their words (harsh or otherwise) can control whether she disappears or not. So why NOT give her the chance to have her baby in peace, snoodle the dickens out of her like EVERY good mama deserves and wait for her to come back or not...and if she disappears, feel free to get out your tar and feathers then.

It sounds like she is plenty stressed about it all as it is...why keep rubbing and rubbing? It seems its only perpetuating the already hurt feelings anyway...what is the point?

I'm sorry for all the mamas that were injured in their transactions...I hope everything turns out alright in the end.
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I didn't read the other responses. But I do hope that you're doing well and resting up after birth and I hope your baby is healthy and well, too!

All we can do, at this point, is hope that once you're rested and home you will come and make all of this right.

You have to understand, scamming is just not acceptable whatsoever. And when we make these threads our full intentions are to resolve the issue, not make a fool out of the person who is in the wrong. As you know, there's others who have their names in the orange, and they're still a part of our community. So as long as you come back and make things right you will be just fine.

many blessings for you and your new baby! And I hope to see you back to resolve these issues.

I gotta be honest...maybe this should be posted somewhere. I am fairly new as a regular around here but it seems like every time one of these threads is started, it really IS just a place for everyone to get their panties twisted up. Now i'm not saying people can't vent or that the issues shouldn't be hung out on the line, but it always seem to turn into a big bully fest without the least amount of adult respect whatsoever.

[_melody_]

Here's the thing. Not one person, through their words (harsh or otherwise) can control whether she disappears or not. So why NOT give her the chance to have her baby in peace, snoodle the dickens out of her like EVERY good mama deserves and wait for her to come back or not...and if she disappears, feel free to get out your tar and feathers then.

It sounds like she is plenty stressed about it all as it is...why keep rubbing and rubbing? It seems its only perpetuating the already hurt feelings anyway...what is the point?

I'm sorry for all the mamas that were injured in their transactions...I hope everything turns out alright in the end.

I'm not sure who is 'rubbing and rubbing'. We put up the thread, and naturally people are commenting on it. I don't see anybody demanding that she be burned at the stake or anything though. I do see plenty of people hoping that things go well with her baby and acknowledging that she needs to be able to spend that special time with her family. We ALL want her to hold on to that special magic that only a new baby can bring. Once she has done so though, we want her to make this right so that she can remain a part of the community.

[mum2dandcait]

FWIW I think you were right to bring this to light ASAP. You have an obligation & a desire to keep this an open forum where people can B/S/T with confidence. People were bound to see what was being said on the blog and if it was not brought to light here, there would be some people complaining. CDN confronts things head on as they come up, it's what makes this place so much better than the others. Seems like lately you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. :bighug:

[_melody_]

I gotta be honest...maybe this should be posted somewhere. I am fairly new as a regular around here but it seems like every time one of these threads is started, it really IS just a place for everyone to get their panties twisted up. Now i'm not saying people can't vent or that the issues shouldn't be hung out on the line, but it always seem to turn into a big bully fest without the least amount of adult respect whatsoever.

Wow. I think we must be reading different threads. Most of the ones recently (including this one), have been quite civil and productive in my opinion. Many of the members who have been placed into the B/S/T with Caution group have gone on AFTER one of these threads to rehabilitate their reputations and remain a part of this group. I doubt they would bother if they felt like the process was terribly unfair. At least this way they CAN tell their side and make things better. If we just didn't say anything and went straight to banning them, the scammed people would be out money or merchandise permanently and the scammer would have ruined their business quite possibly just because they got in over their heads and nobody was willing to help them work it out. I hate that you feel that we are just acting as bullies. How very discouraging it is to hear that. :sigh:

[rainydaybaby]

i do not see anyone with twisted panties. these threads come about because issues have happened - naturally ppl will be upset when they feel taken or scammed or attacked or any of the other feelings that come from these threads. What Nikki said has been said over and over in the threads in this section.

This is the way Admin here chooses to deal with issues. Whether I always agree or not, I always support that. They cannot control other ppl's tempers.

[Shopaholic]

personally, IMO the best thing to do in the interest ofthe board members is to bring things to light as soon as admin is aware of it. It sucks that ith appened to be a bad time for the member who is called into question, but what if membership said, "you should have said something as soon as you knew". Its almost like a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

[chickipoo]

I think it is an unfortunate coincidence that this has come to light on the day she is in labor, however, when you don't do the right thing you can't be guaranteed that it won't bite you in the butt at the most inconvenient time. She doesn't have to read this thread today and she shouldn't. It will still be here when she's ready and I'm sure everyone understands that she has to take a few days at least before she is back to respond. I wish her the best today and I hope she comes back to take care of this as soon as she is able.

:agreed:

[marchstarz]

The person that bought the shirts originally-and i apologize for being lazy and not getting your name-could you please explain or verify whether the shirts listed in WAHM are actually the sizes and colors specified in your order? Cass said they are not, you said they are. Thank you.

I went back to find the communication from September '09, but I can't find it. I'm 100% sure that was what we agreed on, of course, I could be wrong. I have two girls, both different sizes and then one shirt that I was using in a set. I already told Sam that they were, sooo...I'm not sure why I have to explain myself? Could they be the shirts that she originally made for a congo? sure. But I also ordered the same thing.

Thanks for making me feel like I'M being the less than honest person in this case. I have a Paypal transaction to back up my claims. Like a previous poster said, I should "file police reports and internet crime reports with the FBI plus negative feedback everywhere" and maybe instead of trying to fix the situation before finding out everyone who STILL has no received anything from her, I should have just done that.

[marchstarz]

Yuck, sorry for the typos my house is about 2 degrees and I was shivering. :sigh: central air.

[fanciful]

I went back to find the communication from September '09, but I can't find it. I'm 100% sure that was what we agreed on, of course, I could be wrong. I have two girls, both different sizes and then one shirt that I was using in a set. I already told Sam that they were, sooo...I'm not sure why I have to explain myself? Could they be the shirts that she originally made for a congo? sure. But I also ordered the same thing.

Thanks for making me feel like I'M being the less than honest person in this case. I have a Paypal transaction to back up my claims. Like a previous poster said, I should "file police reports and internet crime reports with the FBI plus negative feedback everywhere" and maybe instead of trying to fix the situation before finding out everyone who STILL has no received anything from her, I should have just done that.

I really don't think that was her intent. I think she was just trying to double check what everyone is saying since these threads get long and things get mixed in the middle of everything. kwim? She was just asking you to check to be sure, which I think is fair. It's not insinuating that you are being anything but honest just to double check. Does that make sense?

[_melody_]

I went back to find the communication from September '09, but I can't find it. I'm 100% sure that was what we agreed on, of course, I could be wrong. I have two girls, both different sizes and then one shirt that I was using in a set. I already told Sam that they were, sooo...I'm not sure why I have to explain myself? Could they be the shirts that she originally made for a congo? sure. But I also ordered the same thing.

Thanks for making me feel like I'M being the less than honest person in this case. I have a Paypal transaction to back up my claims. Like a previous poster said, I should "file police reports and internet crime reports with the FBI plus negative feedback everywhere" and maybe instead of trying to fix the situation before finding out everyone who STILL has no received anything from her, I should have just done that.

I don't think ANYONE intended to make it sound like they were questioning your integrity. I think it was just a request for you to verify that the details on the shirts that you ordered match the details on the ones which she is selling. People who are just learning about the transaction are just trying to understand the whole picture. I promise you that nobody is accusing you of any wrong doing. You are clearly the victim here, and we are trying to make sure that you receive a full refund. :hugs:

[bellamama]

I went back to find the communication from September '09, but I can't find it. I'm 100% sure that was what we agreed on, of course, I could be wrong. I have two girls, both different sizes and then one shirt that I was using in a set. I already told Sam that they were, sooo...I'm not sure why I have to explain myself? Could they be the shirts that she originally made for a congo? sure. But I also ordered the same thing.

Thanks for making me feel like I'M being the less than honest person in this case. I have a Paypal transaction to back up my claims. Like a previous poster said, I should "file police reports and internet crime reports with the FBI plus negative feedback everywhere" and maybe instead of trying to fix the situation before finding out everyone who STILL has no received anything from her, I should have just done that.

I don't think that was her intent. I think she was asking so cass could clear it up. I doubt she meant it like she didnt believe you. :hugs:

[BeccatheGreat]

:yeahthat:

[Ahavati]

The baby is here, actually NAK'ing on my phone. I said I would come back in the evening and I'm keeping my word.

I am aware of only 2 outstanding transactions. One for $45 and one for $30. I made right on all the otheres. IF there is one I don't remember, PLEASE bring it to my attention. I don't know of anything on HC. I haven't looked on that thread. I will have to check it out when I get home Monday.

Why I didn't communicate? IDK. I suffer from depression, had issues with thus PGcy from the start, had a stressful past few months. I guess I didn't want to feel like I was constantly giving excuses. That was a bad decision and I know it. There is nothing I can say tomake that right. And I'm not trying to.

When I get home Monday, I will take care of refunding Those 2 known transactions. I will have to rearrange things in our budget but I just want to get it done and out of the way. If there are more, then they may have to wait until the 1st but I will take care of them. Possibly before if DH gets the sidework he's supposedto be getting.

As for scamming a friend out of $200. I did not scam her. It's a long story andi can explain but it's a lot to type on this phone right now. But she has the product back and it was a custom. I ended ip not being able to afford it and had to give it back. I also told her to KEEP the $80 I already paid her. She kept that and I have nothing to show for it. I could have used it desperately but I was trying to make things better for HER. I didn't 'scam' her. :sigh: I stopped posting in the group so much because that's when things went haywire and my comp started crapping out because of viruses. Then when I see comments on FB after I made things right with the other person, then why would I feel like going back when I'm still treated that way even though I made right.

I apologize to those still owed. I have no excuse. I have had a shitty PGcy, shitty past few months and didn't manage my time or money well when trying to do WAHM stuff which is why I stopped. I wasn't running a scheme. That $45 was in my account but I also used a crap load of our own money to refund ppl that hurt us as well.

I will have to see if I stiLl have that order written down somewhere but I know for sure it was a natural, brown and white shirt. I just can't recall the sizes. I can pull the exit data from the pictures used there to show they were taken at the time of the HE stocking. They are not from this order. I would have sent the damn things if I gad them because it would be easier than refunding.

I will be refunding those 2 on Monday and will post back here. I have not one intention of 'running'. I never have dealt with HC other than my store which I let go inactive because I didn't want to take on new orders. So I don't know how I ran from HC too.

Sorry for typos or weird grammar. I'm on my phone which auto corrects weird stuff.
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And Sam, of you need proof of me being in the hospital, I can take a pic of my bands and email it to you showing admission date and birth date if the baby.

[PipersMomma]

and by all rights she should have kept the 80. That covered the supplies she had to buy and cut up for no good reason. :twitch: The 200 I mentioned was after the 80 you paid. :sigh:

[Ahavati]

Abd she also sold it. So whatever the difference was then by all means she can give me her PP and I'll send that too. But she had ordered the fabric before I could send her a deposit so I felt locked in to get it paid for and tried my hardest to get all that together and couldn't.

[mockingbird]

Why I didn't communicate? IDK. I suffer from depression, had issues with thus PGcy from the start, had a stressful past few months. I guess I didn't want to feel like I was constantly giving excuses. That was a bad decision and I know it. There is nothing I can say tomake that right. And I'm not trying to.



This is something I can understand. I still don't like the situation we're in but I've suffered from depression before and I'm someone who will shut the blinds and stop answering the phone...so I can sort of relate. I do appreciate that you're ready to refund the money when you get home. I will definitely let everyone know when that has been made right. It's not my intention to burn anyone in effigy but I'm very happy that I'm finally getting a resolution.

Enjoy the baby. Congratulations.
:-)

[PipersMomma]

Abd she also sold it. So whatever the difference was then by all means she can give me her PP and I'll send that too. But she had ordered the fabric before I could send her a deposit so I felt locked in to get it paid for and tried my hardest to get all that together and couldn't.

The difference was still $110. Im sure she doesnt care at this point. I was just pointing out to the admin that the 2 outstanding transactions you have at this moment, are not the only thing thats gone wrong. This transaction with our friend was well before the bad transactions you got into with customers.

[rainydaybaby]

I went back to find the communication from September '09, but I can't find it. I'm 100% sure that was what we agreed on, of course, I could be wrong. I have two girls, both different sizes and then one shirt that I was using in a set. I already told Sam that they were, sooo...I'm not sure why I have to explain myself? Could they be the shirts that she originally made for a congo? sure. But I also ordered the same thing.

Thanks for making me feel like I'M being the less than honest person in this case. I have a Paypal transaction to back up my claims. Like a previous poster said, I should "file police reports and internet crime reports with the FBI plus negative feedback everywhere" and maybe instead of trying to fix the situation before finding out everyone who STILL has no received anything from her, I should have just done that.

I wasn't trying to make you feel wrong! I'm very sorry that is how my message sounded. I just wanted to clarify a discrepancy and didn't want to direct it at Cassandra because she was unavailable anyway. :) I want you to get your money or product - and asking that question may help clear things up. That's all. I don't think anyone thinks you are lying, and I didn't mean to make you feel that way. I'm sorry. :hugs:

[~Isme~]

For everyone complaining about the timing, and imploring people to just leave her alone to birth her baby in peace: this is an issue that has been going on for MONTHS. Pretty much since she found out she was pregnant. This is coming to light finally because there was a very recent update on the situation. It just so happened coincide with the birth of her baby. Sucky. And as she should be focusing on that (the birth,) she is perfectly within her rights NOT to read here or post. However, just because this thread exists does not mean that her focus must be removed from her family. Not to mention, these are issues she has been aware of and mulling over for such a long time... Why is discussing them now suddenly going to "stress her out"? Either that stress already was present; or she didn't care, and it wasn't. In any case, this thread is serving it's purpose in clearing the air and getting some sort of progress made for those people who have been without product, money, or explanation for these many months.

I hope things are wrapped up satisfactorily for all involved very soon. :hugs:

[cheesewhiz]

This is awful. I always liked her and was so suprised/saddened to hear about this. I can't believe it. :sigh:

[MommyLovesStarWars]

I went back to find the communication from September '09, but I can't find it. I'm 100% sure that was what we agreed on, of course, I could be wrong. I have two girls, both different sizes and then one shirt that I was using in a set. I already told Sam that they were, sooo...I'm not sure why I have to explain myself? Could they be the shirts that she originally made for a congo? sure. But I also ordered the same thing.

Thanks for making me feel like I'M being the less than honest person in this case. I have a Paypal transaction to back up my claims. Like a previous poster said, I should "file police reports and internet crime reports with the FBI plus negative feedback everywhere" and maybe instead of trying to fix the situation before finding out everyone who STILL has no received anything from her, I should have just done that.

I don't think she was at all trying to imply that you were lying.

When we have these threads we try very hard to get the complete and accurate facts of the situation. It's not a comment on you, it's an attempt to see ALL of what happened. That's why these threads work. Because the facts, damning or otherwise, come out.
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The lack of bullshit is what makes CDN, the mods and the admin so awesome.

[Danni]

Cassandra, first congratulations on your baby!!

Second, I am glad to hear that you are ready to take care of this all. I know it is a crappy time, but I am very proud that you are acknowledging it all and ready to correct it.
I just hope that you are able to take a few lessons form this all. And I hope that some other WAHM's can also look at this situation and take some lessons. People need to learn to recongize the line of taking on too much before it happens and people get hurt and left waiting on things.

[aundapenner]

While I agree that the timing sucks, tell me ... when would a good time be?

We already know that prior to the birth, she was pregnant. And depressed. So I guess calling her out then wouldn't have been a good idea.

What about now? after the birth of her child? Oh wait, (headslap) that's also stressful.

The truth is life goes on and sometimes gets to be too much.

But Cass - you should NOT be spending money you've received until your products are received as goods with satisfaction. Shame on you.

And maybe I am a cheapskate, but how can you afford a phone with internet but can't afford, what $100 to refund the rest of the mamas you owe?

As for the friend you jerked over - (I'm one of those BSRB mamas ... though I came on late(r) to the scene) when you pay a deposit for a custom, it's a deposit, normally non-refundable. You did not LET her keep the $80. And if she purchased fabric before you committed, it was your responsibility to tell her you weren't ready. Custom made items, including a drapery to fit YOUR window ... yeah, for sure she lost money on that deal.

IMO it isn't about money - it's about integrity. Sounds to me like you lack it and continue to find reasons to find sympathy for your lack of it.

I'm truly sorry this all came about at the birth of your child, but really, when would have been a good time?

(shaking my head in sadness over all of this)

[Jenga]

I'm truly sorry this all came about at the birth of your child, but really, when would have been a good time?

(shaking my head in sadness over all of this)
I don't think it would ever be a good time for her. I wish this call-out would have happened a week or so ago so that answers could be given and there could start to be resolution to the problem (s).

[Mom]

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And Sam, of you need proof of me being in the hospital, I can take a pic of my bands and email it to you showing admission date and birth date if the baby.

Cassandra, I do NOT need proof that you had your baby. I believe you.

[slcasteel]

While I agree that the timing sucks, tell me ... when would a good time be?

We already know that prior to the birth, she was pregnant. And depressed. So I guess calling her out then wouldn't have been a good idea.

What about now? after the birth of her child? Oh wait, (headslap) that's also stressful.

The truth is life goes on and sometimes gets to be too much.

But Cass - you should NOT be spending money you've received until your products are received as goods with satisfaction. Shame on you.

And maybe I am a cheapskate, but how can you afford a phone with internet but can't afford, what $100 to refund the rest of the mamas you owe?

As for the friend you jerked over - (I'm one of those BSRB mamas ... though I came on late(r) to the scene) when you pay a deposit for a custom, it's a deposit, normally non-refundable. You did not LET her keep the $80. And if she purchased fabric before you committed, it was your responsibility to tell her you weren't ready. Custom made items, including a drapery to fit YOUR window ... yeah, for sure she lost money on that deal.

IMO it isn't about money - it's about integrity. Sounds to me like you lack it and continue to find reasons to find sympathy for your lack of it.

I'm truly sorry this all came about at the birth of your child, but really, when would have been a good time?

(shaking my head in sadness over all of this)


For some reason, your response just seems extra snarky. What a way to make someone feel like crap about their entire being. :looky:

[addiesmommy]

For some reason, your response just seems extra snarky. What a way to make someone feel like crap about their entire being. :looky:

It seems extra snarky because it IS extra snarky. :twitch:

[Sweetmama26]

For some reason, your response just seems extra snarky. What a way to make someone feel like crap about their entire being. :looky:


ITA. No matter how mad you are at a person its not ok to make them feel like crap about the situation.

[Manda00]

It seems extra snarky because it IS extra snarky. :twitch:

:yeahthat: :twitch: :shakehead:


Wow.

[randareena]

It seems extra snarky because it IS extra snarky. :twitch:

:werd:

[Amber]

While I agree that the timing sucks, tell me ... when would a good time be?

We already know that prior to the birth, she was pregnant. And depressed. So I guess calling her out then wouldn't have been a good idea.

What about now? after the birth of her child? Oh wait, (headslap) that's also stressful.

The truth is life goes on and sometimes gets to be too much.

But Cass - you should NOT be spending money you've received until your products are received as goods with satisfaction. Shame on you.

And maybe I am a cheapskate, but how can you afford a phone with internet but can't afford, what $100 to refund the rest of the mamas you owe?

As for the friend you jerked over - (I'm one of those BSRB mamas ... though I came on late(r) to the scene) when you pay a deposit for a custom, it's a deposit, normally non-refundable. You did not LET her keep the $80. And if she purchased fabric before you committed, it was your responsibility to tell her you weren't ready. Custom made items, including a drapery to fit YOUR window ... yeah, for sure she lost money on that deal.

IMO it isn't about money - it's about integrity. Sounds to me like you lack it and continue to find reasons to find sympathy for your lack of it.

I'm truly sorry this all came about at the birth of your child, but really, when would have been a good time?

(shaking my head in sadness over all of this)

i dont even know why timing is still being quesitoned, honestly. she has come back, promised to make it right (as soon as she gets home from the hospital, after giving birth...sounds rather reasonable to me). give her a chance to make good on her word. she has admitted her mistakes. she has said that she was wrong. shes trying...let me tell ya, she is doing way more than i would have done from a hospital bed.

i guess im just not sure what else you expect from her at this point? yea she fucked up. yea she owes people money. but there isnt much to be done right at this second. let her enjoy her baby. and no matter what she has done here, she does deserve a little bit of respect in regards to her situation. its been determined that she isnt lying. no reason to be extra hard on her. right?

[randareena]

Agreed Amber. Yes, she wronged people BUT this is a once in a moment time in both her life and her baby's life that deserves to be treasured. As mothers ourselves we should allow her that.

[slcasteel]

I have no beef here, I don't even know the mama at question. But I do see that she is here trying to make it right so I don't think being a complete bitch is necessary IMO.

[romanlili]

i dont even know why timing is still being quesitoned, honestly. she has come back, promised to make it right (as soon as she gets home from the hospital, after giving birth...sounds rather reasonable to me). give her a chance to make good on her word. she has admitted her mistakes. she has said that she was wrong. shes trying...let me tell ya, she is doing way more than i would have done from a hospital bed.

i guess im just not sure what else you expect from her at this point? yea she fucked up. yea she owes people money. but there isnt much to be done right at this second. let her enjoy her baby. and no matter what she has done here, she does deserve a little bit of respect in regards to her situation. its been determined that she isnt lying. no reason to be extra hard on her. right?

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[SewQuiet]

Cass, you actually still owe me money as well. This is Mootastic1 from DS and I only got two of the three shirts I ordered. I was promised a refund for the third since you had trouble with the design and was unable to complete it, which I understand. However, I never actually got the refund. I know $15 doesn't seem like a lot, but I would appreciate if that was made good.

[rmbrasher]

i dont even know why timing is still being quesitoned, honestly. she has come back, promised to make it right (as soon as she gets home from the hospital, after giving birth...sounds rather reasonable to me). give her a chance to make good on her word. she has admitted her mistakes. she has said that she was wrong. shes trying...let me tell ya, she is doing way more than i would have done from a hospital bed.

i guess im just not sure what else you expect from her at this point? yea she ~FARK~ed up. yea she owes people money. but there isnt much to be done right at this second. let her enjoy her baby. and no matter what she has done here, she does deserve a little bit of respect in regards to her situation. its been determined that she isnt lying. no reason to be extra hard on her. right?

Please, yes, can we do this!

[redfishbluefish]

aaaand my do not BST from this person list grows by a few people....

[Lovecarnievan]

While I agree that the timing sucks, tell me ... when would a good time be?

We already know that prior to the birth, she was pregnant. And depressed. So I guess calling her out then wouldn't have been a good idea.

What about now? after the birth of her child? Oh wait, (headslap) that's also stressful.

The truth is life goes on and sometimes gets to be too much.

But Cass - you should NOT be spending money you've received until your products are received as goods with satisfaction. Shame on you.

And maybe I am a cheapskate, but how can you afford a phone with internet but can't afford, what $100 to refund the rest of the mamas you owe?

As for the friend you jerked over - (I'm one of those BSRB mamas ... though I came on late(r) to the scene) when you pay a deposit for a custom, it's a deposit, normally non-refundable. You did not LET her keep the $80. And if she purchased fabric before you committed, it was your responsibility to tell her you weren't ready. Custom made items, including a drapery to fit YOUR window ... yeah, for sure she lost money on that deal.

IMO it isn't about money - it's about integrity. Sounds to me like you lack it and continue to find reasons to find sympathy for your lack of it.

I'm truly sorry this all came about at the birth of your child, but really, when would have been a good time?

(shaking my head in sadness over all of this)



Um, wow. :shakehead: How's about saving a post like this for after we've given her a chance to make good? You say it's been months and months that she's known, so timing doesn't matter. Um, so how is a couple more days after the birth of a baby going to hurt? :sigh:

[slcasteel]

Um, wow. :shakehead: How's about saving a post like this for after we've given her a chance to make good? You say it's been months and months that she's known, so timing doesn't matter. Um, so how is a couple more days after the birth of a baby going to hurt? :sigh:


:exactly:

[Anna1345]

For some reason, your response just seems extra snarky. What a way to make someone feel like crap about their entire being. :looky:

It seems extra snarky because it IS extra snarky. :twitch:

I have no beef here, I don't even know the mama at question. But I do see that she is here trying to make it right so I don't think being a complete bitch is necessary IMO.



I'm feeling a LOT of same way from a couple of people on this thread.

Yes she Fucked up. YES she has been here to own up and to make good. She will be back once she is done with the first moments of enjoying her baby. Not having compassion and humility can be just as bad as fucking up. I think this is one of those times.

[Jenga]

I'm feeling a LOT of same way from a couple of people on this thread.

Yes she ~FARK~ed up. YES she has been here to own up and to make good. She will be back once she is done with the first moments of enjoying her baby. Not having compassion and humility can be just as bad as ~FARK~ing up. I think this is one of those times.

QFT

[redfishbluefish]

:agreed: Anna

It's klassy. REAL klassy. [Classy with a K. Not good]
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:agreed: Anna

It's klassy. REAL klassy. [Classy with a K. Not good]

Not directed at mods/admin.

[Sweetmama26]

I'm starting to feel real annoyance with the new people that seem to be coming here just to jump on the you ripped me off and I'm gonna make you feel like shit even though you just had a baby bandwagon.

I get that she screwed up, she's trying to own it and you all cutting her down is doing FUCK all really because no matter how you feel you're going to have to continue waiting until she's at least home from the hospital.

[~Isme~]

Come on. They have been without their money, product, and any sort of communication for freaking MONTHS. I've been trying to bite my tongue because I realize that she's well-liked around here and that everyone is having a bit of new-mama-sympathy for her. But these people are NOT the assholes here. Buy a ~FARK~ing clue. They were screwed and they have every right to be pissed. Cassandra does not have to read this right now. It has been her choice to respond. This thread is not out of line and these people who are upset and venting (now that they have FINALLY found a way to get in contact with her after she disappeared) are perfectly within their rights to do so.

Don't turn this ~POOP~ back around on them. Please don't. It hasn't been a good day and I will go the ~FARK~ off.

[mbphoto]

This is ridiculous. She didn't disappear for crying out loud. She came here IN LABOR and while with her NEWBORN to explain herself. What, aundapenner? You dont like what she had to say? Too bad. She owned up. She said she would make right. In case you haven't noticed, these threads give people the opportunity to turn things around. Last I checked, she did EXACTLY so far what this thread intended her to do. Perhaps, you should turn yourself around. Your words and your tone were really harsh and hurtful.

[MBRL567]

didnt someone mention this exact thing on the first few pages? That it turns into a bully fest.

I <3 CDN but good grief- put the rocks and slings away for a minute and let her have a few minutes to breathe!

aundapenner- Im so tired of seeing this from people: And maybe I am a cheapskate, but how can you afford a phone with internet but can't afford, what $100 to refund the rest of the mamas you owe?
- Personally my phone and net is $20 a month and thats not for dial up- thats DSL because we get a discount. Yes in this case Cass could even put that $20 towards repayment, but shes ALLOWED to have a phone.

ok, im off my soapbox--- i dont have a lot of wiggle room to say much but some of the responses just got me fired up because you all DONT have a Hot Seat thread- you DONT know what its like to have everyone making you feel like crap and bogging you down for answers and answers and it doesnt seem to help anything. You dont know- Treat her and anyone else the same way you would if you were in her shoes- would you like it if people came on here saying the things some of you were?

[~Isme~]

I'm starting to feel real annoyance with the new people that seem to be coming here just to jump on the you ripped me off and I'm gonna make you feel like ~POOP~ even though you just had a baby bandwagon.

I get that she screwed up, she's trying to own it and you all cutting her down is doing ~FARK~ all really because no matter how you feel you're going to have to continue waiting until she's at least home from the hospital.

^^^ This post should have been quoted before this:

Come on. They have been without their money, product, and any sort of communication for freaking MONTHS. I've been trying to bite my tongue because I realize that she's well-liked around here and that everyone is having a bit of new-mama-sympathy for her. But these people are NOT the assholes here. Buy a ~FARK~ing clue. They were screwed and they have every right to be pissed. Cassandra does not have to read this right now. It has been her choice to respond. This thread is not out of line and these people who are upset and venting (now that they have FINALLY found a way to get in contact with her after she disappeared) are perfectly within their rights to do so.

Don't turn this ~POOP~ back around on them. Please don't. It hasn't been a good day and I will go the ~FARK~ off.

[MBRL567]

Come on. They have been without their money, product, and any sort of communication for freaking MONTHS. I've been trying to bite my tongue because I realize that she's well-liked around here and that everyone is having a bit of new-mama-sympathy for her. But these people are NOT the assholes here. Buy a ~FARK~ing clue. They were screwed and they have every right to be pissed. Cassandra does not have to read this right now. It has been her choice to respond. This thread is not out of line and these people who are upset and venting (now that they have FINALLY found a way to get in contact with her after she disappeared) are perfectly within their rights to do so.

Don't turn this ~POOP~ back around on them. Please don't. It hasn't been a good day and I will go the ~FARK~ off.

sorry i wanted to add a response to this- im not downing anyone specific. I agree with you. Im speaking to the ones who gave harsh out of line responses. HUGS

[~Isme~]

This is ridiculous. She didn't disappear for crying out loud. She came here IN LABOR and while with her NEWBORN to explain herself. What, aundapenner? You dont like what she had to say? Too bad. She owned up. She said she would make right. In case you haven't noticed, these threads give people the opportunity to turn things around. Last I checked, she did EXACTLY so far what this thread intended her to do. Perhaps, you should turn yourself around. Your words and your tone were really harsh and hurtful.


You are absolutely right. She hasn't disappeared from here and it does seem as though she wants to see this through now and fix the situation she's created. But for the people just now coming in as "new members" and posting here, she HAS disappeared on them before. I can understand if they are still pissed and mistrustful of her intentions after 9 months or so of NO communication or resolution. I'm not defending Aundapenner's tone, but for all the people turning this back around completely on the aggrieved parties: I find that to be way uncool. Those individuals haven't been chummy with Cassandra these past few months. They have no emotional connection to her and her recent delivery. They have simply been SOL after she (apparently) unintentionally scammed them so many months ago. I would be kinda pissed too. KWIM?

[Sweetmama26]

Come on. They have been without their money, product, and any sort of communication for freaking MONTHS. I've been trying to bite my tongue because I realize that she's well-liked around here and that everyone is having a bit of new-mama-sympathy for her. But these people are NOT the assholes here. Buy a ~FARK~ing clue. They were screwed and they have every right to be pissed. Cassandra does not have to read this right now. It has been her choice to respond. This thread is not out of line and these people who are upset and venting (now that they have FINALLY found a way to get in contact with her after she disappeared) are perfectly within their rights to do so.

Don't turn this ~POOP~ back around on them. Please don't. It hasn't been a good day and I will go the ~FARK~ off.

You are completely right THEY DO HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE ANGRY. They do not however have the right to make someone feel like SHIT over a mistake she has REPEATEDLY said she would correct. Maybe they should give her a few days before going on a witch hunt for her, they were fully aware reading this thread that she's been off to have a baby.

Sorry if that makes me annoyed when people try and cut down someone because of a mistakes she's obviously owned up to.

[Jenga]

You are absolutely right. She hasn't disappeared from here and it does seem as though she wants to see this through now and fix the situation she's created. But for the people just now coming in as "new members" and posting here, she HAS disappeared on them before. I can understand if they are still pissed and mistrustful of her intentions after 9 months or so of NO communication or resolution. I'm not defending Aundapenner's tone, but for all the people turning this back around completely on the aggrieved parties: I find that to be way uncool. Those individuals haven't been chummy with Cassandra these past few months. They have no emotional connection to her and her recent delivery. They have simply been SOL after she (apparently) unintentionally scammed them so many months ago. I would be kinda pissed too. KWIM?

They have every right to be angry and every right to be here. The Admin need to know that everything is taken care of and that they're made whole.

[Amber]

I don't think its ridiculous to join and let everyone know that they have been having issues. Everyone deserved to be heard.

I do think its a problem when youre a bitch about it, and pretend like you dont see the fact that she is trying to make things right. Mellow out a little. She said she will fix things, no need to drill further until she doesnt make good on her word.

[mbphoto]

Not posting on DS or HC and coming to CDN constitutes "disappearing". It takes about 30 seconds to find anyone in the CD world if they are still "around".

[Lolanae]

She's been telling some folks that she'd make this right for months apparently. Not just all of a sudden. I can see why some folks don't believe yet that this time she will make it right.

[mbphoto]

I forgot my question mark. I'm tired. Let me try again.

Not posting on DS or HC, but on CDN, constitutes disappearing????

[Jenga]

You are completely right THEY DO HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE ANGRY. They do not however have the right to make someone feel like ~POOP~ over a mistake she has REPEATEDLY said she would correct. Maybe they should give her a few days before going on a witch hunt for her, they were fully aware reading this thread that she's been off to have a baby.

Sorry if that makes me annoyed when people try and cut down someone because of a mistakes she's obviously owned up to.

Saying something and doing it are different things. She's had months to do it and hasn't. That's a valid concern for them.

I'm just of the opinion that we can only hope she'll do the right thing now and that if we give her a couple more days it won't matter in the long run. Saying she'll run off because that's what she's always done when we know she's just had a baby isn't exactly fair and isn't exactly what is going on right now.
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I forgot my question mark. I'm tired. Let me try again.

Not posting on DS or HC, but on CDN, constitutes disappearing????

well she did leave those places after making friends and many promises and just never went back...

[Sweetmama26]

Saying something and doing it are different things. She's had months to do it and hasn't. That's a valid concern for them.

I'm just of the opinion that we can only hope she'll do the right thing now and that if we give her a couple more days it won't matter in the long run. Saying she'll run off because that's what she's always done when we know she's just had a baby isn't exactly fair and isn't exactly what is going on right now.


Ok yeah I get that but my point still stands nobody has the right to make a person feel like a shitbag because they have been wronged. I'm of the stance of not being a bitch when I've been wronged and trying to deal with it as nicely as possible.

[~Isme~]

You are completely right THEY DO HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE ANGRY. They do not however have the right to make someone feel like ~POOP~ over a mistake she has REPEATEDLY said she would correct. Maybe they should give her a few days before going on a witch hunt for her, they were fully aware reading this thread that she's been off to have a baby.

Sorry if that makes me annoyed when people try and cut down someone because of a mistakes she's obviously owned up to.


A mistake she owned up to because the admin put out a call out thread discussing it. :looky:

I'm sure these people did happen to notice that she was off having a baby. But I can't really blame them if they still feel the need to say their piece after MONTHS of not knowing where she was. She ignored their attempts at communication. Perhaps we all could have a little more compassion, but I can't really blame them if they find it difficult to muster after not having any contact with her for so long. Plus, they could be assuming (as I would) that she would take the time off to focus on her baby and come back to this and their comments whenever she feels ready. If she chooses not to do that, it's not their fault and they shouldn't be "handslapped" for speaking their mind in the meantime.

[~Isme~]

Not posting on DS or HC and coming to CDN constitutes "disappearing". It takes about 30 seconds to find anyone in the CD world if they are still "around".


Some people really aren't that "up" on the cloth diapering world. There are many people who are directed here after having NO clue that another cloth diapering forum exists. So it's not so far-fetched that they would have no clue where she disappeared to. And really, why should they have to hunt HER down? I understand that everyone hates DS and they all are afraid of the dreaded DS viruses... But if she didn't want to endanger her computer, she could have used the library. Or heck-- she could have contacted these individuals through PP. But the fact remains that she did not respond to their emails. So yes, I would consider that to be disappearing.

[jujusmommy]

ITA. No matter how mad you are at a person its not ok to make them feel like crap about the situation.

Really? Do you know how the wahm felt? She was out a ton of money, and in order to resell the custom for LESS money than was the original
price, she also had to remake part of the custom since there was a piece that was not resellable. I am also a bsrb mama and believe me, we know more
of the story from behind the scenes.

Cass I hope you can get things in order. I highly recommend looking into The Total Money Makeover by Dave Ramsey and getting your finances in order. There is no reason why these mamas should wait for their money or shirts. This coming from someone who was able to pay a mortgage/bills on
a house not lived while paying rent for a house we live in a total of $3400/month all on a enlisted servicemembers salary while raising 2 children and paying support on another.

[PipersMomma]

I know I personally, never intended to make Cass feel like a shitbag. I, personally, dont even have any outstanding transactions with her. I felt I needed to post a "backstory" of when she was assbuddies with us on the bsrb chat thread back when we used to go on DS. And she did actually disappear from us. Just bc she posts on another website doesnt mean anyone has any way of contacting her, so this is those peoples first attempt. She can just as easily decide not to respond to a pm on here and she did on ds, and her personal email accounts, and facebook, or wherever we could find her.

Im glad that she is owning up to her mistakes, and I do give her credit for that, but its not like she went out of her way to own up to them. Do you think she would have done it and taken care of everything had there not been a "Hot Seat" thread started? If Cass does make this right, good for her. I will be extremely happy. If she doesnt, I wont be shocked.

Im not defending Alice's post, but alot of us were pretty butthurt over what she did to one of my best friends, and one of HER supposed friends.

And FTR, I do believe that Cass has a right to have a phone lol. The issue is and was that if she wasnt spending the money she got for her customs before the customers stuff was done and they were happy with it, she wouldnt have had to dip into family money for refunds.

[Picklesnapper]

Really? Do you know how the wahm felt? She was out a ton of money, and in order to resell the custom for LESS money than was the original
price, she also had to remake part of the custom since there was a piece that was not resellable. I am also a bsrb mama and believe me, we know more
of the story from behind the scenes.

Cass I hope you can get things in order. I highly recommend looking into The Total Money Makeover by Dave Ramsey and getting your finances in order. There is no reason why these mamas should wait for their money or shirts. This coming from someone who was able to pay a mortgage/bills on
a house not lived while paying rent for a house we live in a total of $3400/month all on a enlisted servicemembers salary while raising 2 children and paying support on another.


I live on a lot less then that, pay those bills minus the child support but I have three kids, one with a lot of medical issues wich encure a lot of costs.

[jujusmommy]

I live on a lot less then that, pay those bills minus the child support but I have three kids, one with a lot of medical issues wich encure a lot of costs.

$3400 was for the 2 houses. Not for food or other expenses. I have
lived for a year without any new clothes or shoes. Believe me I put bills and
my family first. I went without.

[Picklesnapper]

$3400 was for the 2 houses. Not for food or other expenses. I have
lived for a year without any new clothes or shoes. Believe me I put bills and
my family first. I went without.


It sucks doesn't it!

[aundapenner]

So if I am reading the responses properly, it is wrong for me to state that there just never seems to be a good time to deal with stuff?

Yes, I am new here, but I am not over on DS and am an avid supporter of many many WAHMs that also post here.

Why, as a newcomer to this board, but who has knowledge of this mama's past, am I being attacked and even given negative rep feedback for, what, being harsh?

Cass has the choice to come here and talk about owning her mistakes while in labor. She choose to come here - I certainly did not fly out to her and say hey you, you better go on CDN and see what's going on.

During both of my high-risk pregnancies and deliveries I never dreamed of contacting anyone on the internet. Not until AFTER the delivery. But hey, that's just snarky old me here.

(Sorry for the snarkiness but I mean seriously, why is what I said being turned on me when this hot seat is about Cass, not me?)

[Anna1345]

Come on. They have been without their money, product, and any sort of communication for freaking MONTHS. I've been trying to bite my tongue because I realize that she's well-liked around here and that everyone is having a bit of new-mama-sympathy for her. But these people are NOT the assholes here. Buy a ~FARK~ing clue. They were screwed and they have every right to be pissed. Cassandra does not have to read this right now. It has been her choice to respond. This thread is not out of line and these people who are upset and venting (now that they have FINALLY found a way to get in contact with her after she disappeared) are perfectly within their rights to do so.

Don't turn this ~POOP~ back around on them. Please don't. It hasn't been a good day and I will go the ~FARK~ off.
There is a difference between being rightly pissed off/upset and just down right bitchy/ cruel
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They have every right to be angry and every right to be here. The Admin need to know that everything is taken care of and that they're made whole.
No one is disputing that
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Saying something and doing it are different things. She's had months to do it and hasn't. That's a valid concern for them.

I'm just of the opinion that we can only hope she'll do the right thing now and that if we give her a couple more days it won't matter in the long run. Saying she'll run off because that's what she's always done when we know she's just had a baby isn't exactly fair and isn't exactly what is going on right now.
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well she did leave those places after making friends and many promises and just never went back...
iirc she HAS been refunding people. Just not all of them. So yea, she is working on it

[Anna1345]

Really? Do you know how the wahm felt? She was out a ton of money, and in order to resell the custom for LESS money than was the original
price, she also had to remake part of the custom since there was a piece that was not resellable. I am also a bsrb mama and believe me, we know more
of the story from behind the scenes.

Cass I hope you can get things in order. I highly recommend looking into The Total Money Makeover by Dave Ramsey and getting your finances in order. There is no reason why these mamas should wait for their money or shirts. This coming from someone who was able to pay a mortgage/bills on
a house not lived while paying rent for a house we live in a total of $3400/month all on a enlisted servicemembers salary while raising 2 children and paying support on another.
are you said wahm?
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So if I am reading the responses properly, it is wrong for me to state that there just never seems to be a good time to deal with stuff?

Yes, I am new here, but I am not over on DS and am an avid supporter of many many WAHMs that also post here.

Why, as a newcomer to this board, but who has knowledge of this mama's past, am I being attacked and even given negative rep feedback for, what, being harsh?

Cass has the choice to come here and talk about owning her mistakes while in labor. She choose to come here - I certainly did not fly out to her and say hey you, you better go on CDN and see what's going on.

During both of my high-risk pregnancies and deliveries I never dreamed of contacting anyone on the internet. Not until AFTER the delivery. But hey, that's just snarky old me here.

(Sorry for the snarkiness but I mean seriously, why is what I said being turned on me when this hot seat is about Cass, not me?)
Because for some one who didn't actually have an transaction with her, you were acting like a bitch -- not just passing the mods/admin helpful information that you were privy to.

And clearly we are on Cass as the whole thread is about her. In addition she has OWNED up PUBLICLY has just about every one taken care of save for 2-3 people.

[mockingbird]

I had never heard of CDN before a few days ago when mod contacted me and invited me to this thread. I don't think I was overly bitchy. Sure, I'm ticked off. It DID seem like she disappeared. I searched under the only screenname I knew of her and did not find anything recent. I'm sorry that I didn't scour every CD forum looking for signs of anyone that might be her. I sent repeated emails. I posted on HC and actually was even nice, then, stating that I hoped things were ok but had no clue where to find her and did anyone know. I stated on here that our communications had been friendly but they just stopped. I was compassionate when she came on this thread and talked about her depression and how she was not contacting people. I do find it a little irritating, after reading around on this site, that she was not depressed enough to start some interesting conversations and participate actively in them. I guess the depression was limited to email or something. (<---yeah, that was snarky, kind of sorry) Anyway, I just don't see why I'm being called out as a newbie bitch coming and dragging her to a post to burn alive. I was invited here, I stated what I wanted to state, she responded (of her own volition...I didn't drag her out while in labor), I responded back. I even wished her well...and I'm getting a bad rap? That makes no sense to me.

[Danni]

I don't blame any of these girls for being fiesty, not one bit. Cassie left people hanging, took their money and gave them nothing, dissapeared after being a frequent poster of an obviously tight knit group, she refused to communicate and her PP was shut down. They had no recourse and obviously were unable to find her. Now this thread comes up, some of their members were contacted by our admin and they finally have their place and the opportunity to say their peace (even if it is harsh, snarky or angry) and a possibility of things being made right.

If it were me I would probably come here with my guns ablazing. When these girls were invited here to participate they probably did not know that she was about to give birth since they do not read here. So they were probably worked up and ready to rumble over this, they had no idea what to expect. So if they are harsh I do not blame them. This has all been going on for months...MONTHS. Feelings have built up quite strong I image.

Cassie is going to get the time she needs with her baby, as she should. But when she does come back she will face all of those hurt feelings because SHE made them. Not these girls.

[~Isme~]

are you said wahm?
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Because for some one who didn't actually have an transaction with her, you were acting like a bitch -- not just passing the mods/admin helpful information that you were privy to.

And clearly we are on Cass as the whole thread is about her. In addition she has OWNED up PUBLICLY has just about every one taken care of save for 2-3 people.

She owned up to this publicly because it was made a public issue by the admin. This wasn't her clearing her conscience. This was her admitting (after being CALLED on it) that yes, she had been ignoring these people for months. And just because it's only "2-3" people that were left without contact or resolution, are you saying that it's not some sort of a big deal or something? Because I'm guessing that to the people who were missing their money--- it was a big deal. Her saying here now that she had intentions of making things right with them probably means very little in the face of months and months with no contact. KWIM?

I had never heard of CDN before a few days ago when mod contacted me and invited me to this thread. I don't think I was overly bitchy. Sure, I'm ticked off. It DID seem like she disappeared. I searched under the only screenname I knew of her and did not find anything recent. I'm sorry that I didn't scour every CD forum looking for signs of anyone that might be her. I sent repeated emails. I posted on HC and actually was even nice, then, stating that I hoped things were ok but had no clue where to find her and did anyone know. I stated on here that our communications had been friendly but they just stopped. I was compassionate when she came on this thread and talked about her depression and how she was not contacting people. I do find it a little irritating, after reading around on this site, that she was not depressed enough to start some interesting conversations and participate actively in them. I guess the depression was limited to email or something. (<---yeah, that was snarky, kind of sorry) Anyway, I just don't see why I'm being called out as a newbie bitch coming and dragging her to a post to burn alive. I was invited here, I stated what I wanted to state, she responded (of her own volition...I didn't drag her out while in labor), I responded back. I even wished her well...and I'm getting a bad rap? That makes no sense to me.


You have nothing to apologize for. You are not in the wrong AT ALL. I'm glad you are finally getting some answers and I hope that Cassandra makes things right with you soon. :hugs:
~~~~~~~
I don't blame any of these girls for being fiesty, not one bit. Cassie left people hanging, took their money and gave them nothing, dissapeared after being a frequent poster of an obviously tight knit group, she refused to communicate and her PP was shut down. They had no recourse and obviously were unable to find her. Now this thread comes up, some of their members were contacted by our admin and they finally have their place and the opportunity to say their peace (even if it is harsh, snarky or angry) and a possibility of things being made right.

If it were me I would probably come here with my guns ablazing. When these girls were invited here to participate they probably did not know that she was about to give birth since they do not read here. So they were probably worked up and ready to rumble over this, they had no idea what to expect. So if they are harsh I do not blame them. This has all been going on for months...MONTHS. Feelings have built up quite strong I image.

Cassie is going to get the time she needs with her baby, as she should. But when she does come back she will face all of those hurt feelings because SHE made them. Not these girls.


:werd:

[jujusmommy]

It sucks doesn't it!

Yes but in the end t was worth it. We just sold our
house. Almost all of our credit cards are paid off, we are awaiting a large IRS refund, we now have $1500 extra each month and we have learned from our past mistakes. I just hope cass can do the same. I am sure owing people is stressful. I just always put my priorities in order. I will be getting my first haircut in a year today because in the past year other things have come first.

[jujusmommy]

are you said wahm?
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Because for some one who didn't actually have an transaction with her, you were acting like a bitch -- not just passing the mods/admin helpful information that you were privy to.

And clearly we are on Cass as the whole thread is about her. In addition she has OWNED up PUBLICLY has just about every one taken care of save for 2-3 people.

No not the wahm. But this wahm is also a friend. My friends are special
people who rank right up there behind my family. When someone hurts
my friend they hurt me. I am not trying to be bitchy but there does
come a time where you are sick of the excuses. As a person the runs two businesses I can tell you that 1 records should be
kept for everything and 2 you don't spend the buyers
money until they have received and are satisfied with their purchase. Not to
mention, business funds should be kept separate from personal
funds.

[Mom]

All right peopole knock it off. this thread isn't for the bitching thats going on. See the post I've quoted. I INVITED HER HERE. I told her to come and post her story. I'm trying to help the people who got screwed get unscrewed.

She and others are here because I asked them to be. Quit with the snarky remarks to them.

People I invited are coming to me saying they want their accounts deleted because of this.

Good lord people. As far as I'm concerned, I shouldn't have posted this the day I did becasue Cassandra should have been able to birth her child without this shit fest to think about.

But Cassandra has had MONTHS to make this right, MONTHS. She's in the wrong here, not the noobs coming to the thread.

:shakehead:

My sincerest apologies to those I invited to our little corner who are now being bashed for no reason what -so-ever.

I had never heard of CDN before a few days ago when mod contacted me and invited me to this thread. I don't think I was overly bitchy. Sure, I'm ticked off. It DID seem like she disappeared. I searched under the only screenname I knew of her and did not find anything recent. I'm sorry that I didn't scour every CD forum looking for signs of anyone that might be her. I sent repeated emails. I posted on HC and actually was even nice, then, stating that I hoped things were ok but had no clue where to find her and did anyone know. I stated on here that our communications had been friendly but they just stopped. I was compassionate when she came on this thread and talked about her depression and how she was not contacting people. I do find it a little irritating, after reading around on this site, that she was not depressed enough to start some interesting conversations and participate actively in them. I guess the depression was limited to email or something. (<---yeah, that was snarky, kind of sorry) Anyway, I just don't see why I'm being called out as a newbie bitch coming and dragging her to a post to burn alive. I was invited here, I stated what I wanted to state, she responded (of her own volition...I didn't drag her out while in labor), I responded back. I even wished her well...and I'm getting a bad rap? That makes no sense to me.

[HealingPixie]

ITA with Danni.
I am a bit confused. I really think some of us are blazing back because we just see all of this with fresh new baby smell and rose colored new mama glasses. We need to keep the 2 in their individual boxes. I too get all mushy faced for a new baby/mama, but that is not this threads purpose.
Just the facts ma'am (and a side of curly fries)
So what is it called then if you give me $ for a product I have, I do not send product, I spend the money, I do not email you, I do not refund you, I then leave the msg board we both belong to and I close down my store front (but I did join another msg board)?

[Danni]

Well said Sam...thank you.

[Mrs. Meh]

I had never heard of CDN before a few days ago when mod contacted me and invited me to this thread. I don't think I was overly bitchy. Sure, I'm ticked off. It DID seem like she disappeared. I searched under the only screenname I knew of her and did not find anything recent. I'm sorry that I didn't scour every CD forum looking for signs of anyone that might be her. I sent repeated emails. I posted on HC and actually was even nice, then, stating that I hoped things were ok but had no clue where to find her and did anyone know. I stated on here that our communications had been friendly but they just stopped. I was compassionate when she came on this thread and talked about her depression and how she was not contacting people. I do find it a little irritating, after reading around on this site, that she was not depressed enough to start some interesting conversations and participate actively in them. I guess the depression was limited to email or something. (<---yeah, that was snarky, kind of sorry) Anyway, I just don't see why I'm being called out as a newbie bitch coming and dragging her to a post to burn alive. I was invited here, I stated what I wanted to state, she responded (of her own volition...I didn't drag her out while in labor), I responded back. I even wished her well...and I'm getting a bad rap? That makes no sense to me.

Nope. Its not your fault.

This is the interwebz. We have no idea who is on the other end and if they really are who they say they are.
I can see why you would be distrusting after having been on the receiving end of the scam.

I hope this can be worked out and if not, I hope the scammer will be banned.

[Mom]

:gaah:

And repping a noob and calling them a bitch is really not helpful for the board. Grow up.

[MommyLovesStarWars]

You are absolutely right. She hasn't disappeared from here and it does seem as though she wants to see this through now and fix the situation she's created. But for the people just now coming in as "new members" and posting here, she HAS disappeared on them before. I can understand if they are still pissed and mistrustful of her intentions after 9 months or so of NO communication or resolution. I'm not defending Aundapenner's tone, but for all the people turning this back around completely on the aggrieved parties: I find that to be way uncool. Those individuals haven't been chummy with Cassandra these past few months. They have no emotional connection to her and her recent delivery. They have simply been SOL after she (apparently) unintentionally scammed them so many months ago. I would be kinda pissed too. KWIM?

I'm with you. The point is, whether she intended to scam or not, these women were screwed out of money, product and trust.

I can't speak for the people who were scammed, but a lot of times for me my WAHM purchases are stuff I save for and are special to me. It isn't stuff I buy everyday, it's a little present for myself and for my baby. It's even worse when it's someone that you like and thought you could trust. (I still get sick to my stomach when I think about the fact that I sent Aundy a bunch of stuff at Christmas to find out her stories were mostly bullshit).

I'm not saying be overly harsh about it, but I totally understand why these ladies are upset. Cass has the right to NOT read this thread for a few days. People keep saying, "Well she said she's going to make it right..." until she makes it right these mamas are still out money and product. And they're supposed to believe her after she kept their money and didn't send a product?

I hope she's doing well and the baby too... but I totally understand why people are upset. Especially if this has been festering for months and this is the first opportunity they've had to express their feelings to the source.
~~~~~~~
And as always, Danni and Mom have teh awesome.

[~Isme~]

ITA with Danni.
I am a bit confused. I really think some of us are blazing back because we just see all of this with fresh new baby smell and rose colored new mama glasses. We need to keep the 2 in their individual boxes. I too get all mushy faced for a new baby/mama, but that is not this threads purpose.
Just the facts ma'am (and a side of curly fries)
So what is it called then if you give me $ for a product I have, I do not send product, I spend the money, I do not email you, I do not refund you, I then leave the msg board we both belong to and I close down my store front (but I did join another msg board)?

Yeppers to everything.
:gaah:

And repping a noob and calling them a bitch is really not helpful for the board. Grow up.

Wow. :shakehead:

I'm with you. The point is, whether she intended to scam or not, these women were screwed out of money, product and trust.

I can't speak for the people who were scammed, but a lot of times for me my WAHM purchases are stuff I save for and are special to me. It isn't stuff I buy everyday, it's a little present for myself and for my baby. It's even worse when it's someone that you like and thought you could trust. (I still get sick to my stomach when I think about the fact that I sent Aundy a bunch of stuff at Christmas to find out her stories were mostly bull~POOP~).

I'm not saying be overly harsh about it, but I totally understand why these ladies are upset. Cass has the right to NOT read this thread for a few days. People keep saying, "Well she said she's going to make it right..." until she makes it right these mamas are still out money and product. And they're supposed to believe her after she kept their money and didn't send a product?

I hope she's doing well and the baby too... but I totally understand why people are upset. Especially if this has been festering for months and this is the first opportunity they've had to express their feelings to the source.
~~~~~~~
And as always, Danni and Mom have teh awesome.

Exactly!

[Mom]

Cass told me that she had made right on all this when I asked her about it months ago. Fail on my part. So her saying she will right now makes no difference to me, either she will or she won't but I won't believe her until she's actually done it.

[Shopaholic]

I don't think anyone is denying her a cell phone. I think the question was the affordability of phone internet when you can't afford to refund. I wanted an Iphone w/ internet, but we can't fit that into our budget and I don't owe any refunds- KWIM? I think that was the insinuation, which I have to admit I agree with. If I owed people alot of money, I would think "where can I make cuts"

However, chances are that the phone thing is a contract that cannot be cancelled. However, if money is that tight, mabye its something to reconsider when the contract is up.

[marchstarz]

I wasn't trying to make you feel wrong! I'm very sorry that is how my message sounded. I just wanted to clarify a discrepancy and didn't want to direct it at Cassandra because she was unavailable anyway. :) I want you to get your money or product - and asking that question may help clear things up. That's all. I don't think anyone thinks you are lying, and I didn't mean to make you feel that way. I'm sorry. :hugs:

It's okay. I'm frustrated, as are the others that this affects.

I DO understand, now, that Cass was in labor and having a baby, but for those of us that have tried to contact her over the last 6 months, atleast, we've been completely ignored. So I apologize that this happened at a bad time for her, but she has been running from us. How was I to know that she was intending to refund me with her tax return? She never responded to any communication attempts.

I understand that she says she's going to 'make this right', but she's said that to one of the other customers before and never followed through. So how are the three of us supposed to trust that?

To make matters even worse, she took on orders to pay back other customers so that nothing ever had to come out of her pocket. So she knew she was in over her head, but continued to take orders. She's also been B/S/T'ing which she could have used that money to pay us back, but failed to do so. I guess I have a different mentality in that, if I owe someone, before I take money for me, I'm going to pay them back first (like...credit cards), because that money wasn't mine to begin with. The money that I paid her was hard earned, she spent it and it wasn't hers to spend. How did she pick and chose who she was going to refund and who she wasn't? I understand she made some refunds but there are still customers out there waiting for theirs, because at the end of the day, it's still their money.

I do think other WAHM's should learn from this situation.

[Danni]

marchstarz...none of you have anything to aplogize for. So don't.

I really hope this helps and can get this resolved.

[snookemz]

Just remember, the more you tear someone down,the less likley they are to come back. Most of the Hot Seat threads that have people who made things right went down peacefully. If you just name call, catfight, and try to make someone feel like they're nothing - well...then its gonna work and they will run off and not make a damn thing right.

And really - had she NOT come on here immediately, there would have been an uproar about her disappearing and this being her MO. At least wait until she's home where she can do something before attacking too hard. You can be mad, you can be mistrustful, you can not give a shit if she's hit by a car - that's your deal and you're entitled to it but the fact remains, she can't do a whole lot through her phone while in a hospital room with a newborn.

Now, is the timing bad? The timing is never good when you're faced with the wrongs you've done. But if you feel faced with them AND backed into a corner, its easier to run than fix the problems.

[BeccatheGreat]

Mom and Danni have teh awesome as always. And seriously, neg repping a noob like this? Real klassy. Yeah Cass made mistakes, but give her a chance to come back and make it right. If she doesn't, that can be dealt with when it comes up, right? Hopefully it won't come down to that though!

[jaz]

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[Mom]

QQQQQQQQQQXXXXXXXXXX`X` QQH

Care to translate?

[jaz]

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Sorry for the above post in 184. My 10 month old has better typing skills than I thought.

[BeccatheGreat]

I'd wager it's one of her youngins. :lol:

[MooseDon'tWearDiapers]

QQQQQQQQQQXXXXXXXXXX`X` QQH

:werd:

[rainydaybaby]

:lol: good catch title fairy! :toofunny:

[jaz]

Heck, I'm just glad she didn't close the program, considering how much she was smacking the Q button.

[nini02]

:giggle:

[BackLitLeo]

QQQQQQQQQQXXXXXXXXXX`X` QQH

:teehee: Out of the mouths (fingers) of babes, eh?

I hope everything is resolved soon, and that the newbies aren't frightened off. If birth enters any situation, it's easy to get emotional.

[jenniferjunniper]

All of the "oldies" here really need to lighten up on the newbies. We dont want to chase off new members. They have a right to be angry and hurt and state their feelings. Dannie, Nicky and Sam said it perfectly. Lets all try to be classy with a "c"!

[BeccatheGreat]

:werd:

[CommieVegan]

Cass told me that she had made right on all this when I asked her about it months ago. Fail on my part. So her saying she will right now makes no difference to me, either she will or she won't but I won't believe her until she's actually done it.

Rut roh, that doesn't bode well for the future of resolving this.

[Messy]

The only thing I have an issue with on this whole thing is that people are expecting Cassandra to pay more money on the custom that she did not follow through with. The WAHM charged a deposit. That was the WAHM's "CYA" money... If the buyer backs out, *that* is what (and all) the buyer should lose, IMO. If the WAHM was making something that simply could never be sold to anyone else, then she needed to consider that in the deposit money. Period.
The rest of it, I hope she makes good on. The WAHM transaction though, seems to me, like she already lost her "promissory" money and thus canceled the transaction. It is not her fault the WAHM could not recoup the full agreed upon sale price; that was not Cassandra's problem.
Disclaimer: I am not Cassandra's friend, I just post here :D Also, I have no idea who the WAHM is.

[PipersMomma]

nobody said she was expected to pay the wahm back. Originally, she was expected it back bc she had the product in hand. (yes the wahm sent her the item before she finished paying on it, bc she thought they were friends and she was good for it). But she did end up sending the product back, maybe not QUITE in the condition it was sent it, but hey, the wahm took a risk sending the product before she was paid, and she knows that, but like I said, we all thought she was tight with us.

So anyway, long story short, and to answer your post, she is not expected to pay anything back to that wahm. The wahm wants nothing from her. *I* was posting the story, bc I felt I needed to let ppl know that the shadiness is not only these 2 transactions she is currently working on. Cass OFFERED to pay the difference (just yesterday) but I said the wahm wasnt worried about it anymore.
~~~~~~~
so she never actually canceled the transaction, she went ahead and let the wahm work on everything (and it was a LONG process, not like knitting a pair of shorties or something) KNOWING she was never going to able to pay for it. Got it sent to her on god faith (an obvious mistake, even if we think we "know" someone) , and then sent it back MONTHS later, looking used, but of course no way to prove it was, and even if there was, the wahm really didnt think she was EVER going to get money out of Cass so she let it go.
~~~~~~~
*good faith, not god faith

[jaz]

:teehee: Out of the mouths (fingers) of babes, eh?


I'm trying desperately to keep the computer out of my kid's mouth, tis true. She's got three teeth, is teething a 4th, and is NOT afraid to use them. She really likes the corners of laptop screens *flinches*

[jaz]

I'd love to hear Cass's side because if this is true, this is truly unacceptable IMO. WAHMs should not be expected to take back their wares whenever the owner is done using them. Especially if you haven't finished paying for them in the first place. If you can't afford to pay for them, you can't afford to use them, at least in my little world. If you send them back after some time, there should be obvious defect on the part of the WAHM's work or materials or be in new condition.

nobody said she was expected to pay the wahm back. Originally, she was expected it back bc she had the product in hand. (yes the wahm sent her the item before she finished paying on it, bc she thought they were friends and she was good for it). But she did end up sending the product back, maybe not QUITE in the condition it was sent it, but hey, the wahm took a risk sending the product before she was paid, and she knows that, but like I said, we all thought she was tight with us.
~~~~~~~
so she never actually canceled the transaction, she went ahead and let the wahm work on everything (and it was a LONG process, not like knitting a pair of shorties or something) KNOWING she was never going to able to pay for it. Got it sent to her on god faith (an obvious mistake, even if we think we "know" someone) , and then sent it back MONTHS later, looking used, but of course no way to prove it was, and even if there was, the wahm really didnt think she was EVER going to get money out of Cass so she let it go.
~~~~~~~
*good faith, not god faith

[Anna1345]

She owned up to this publicly because it was made a public issue by the admin. This wasn't her clearing her conscience. This was her admitting (after being CALLED on it) that yes, she had been ignoring these people for months. And just because it's only "2-3" people that were left without contact or resolution, are you saying that it's not some sort of a big deal or something? Because I'm guessing that to the people who were missing their money--- it was a big deal. Her saying here now that she had intentions of making things right with them probably means very little in the face of months and months with no contact. KWIM?


No that was not my point. My point was that based on posts, it *seemed* there were many people out money, now there is only 2-3 left that need to be refunded. Therefore it *seemed* she had been working on making it right -- going down the line.

No not the wahm. But this wahm is also a friend. My friends are special
people who rank right up there behind my family. When someone hurts
my friend they hurt me. I am not trying to be bitchy but there does
come a time where you are sick of the excuses. As a person the runs two businesses I can tell you that 1 records should be
kept for everything and 2 you don't spend the buyers
money until they have received and are satisfied with their purchase. Not to
mention, business funds should be kept separate from personal
funds.That's fine, I was just curious. I couldn't tell from that post...

Sam -- dually noted. I will no longer comment on this thread as I am not Cass, the WAHM, nor anyone who ordered from her.

[Jenga]

:gaah:

And repping a noob and calling them a bitch is really not helpful for the board. Grow up.

Really? I mean REALLY??!?

I don't think anyone is denying her a cell phone. I think the question was the affordability of phone internet when you can't afford to refund. I wanted an Iphone w/ internet, but we can't fit that into our budget and I don't owe any refunds- KWIM? I think that was the insinuation, which I have to admit I agree with. If I owed people alot of money, I would think "where can I make cuts"

However, chances are that the phone thing is a contract that cannot be cancelled. However, if money is that tight, mabye its something to reconsider when the contract is up. Those 2 or 3 year contracts can really bite you in the bum, fo sho.

It's okay. I'm frustrated, as are the others that this affects.

I DO understand, now, that Cass was in labor and having a baby, but for those of us that have tried to contact her over the last 6 months, atleast, we've been completely ignored. So I apologize that this happened at a bad time for her, but she has been running from us. How was I to know that she was intending to refund me with her tax return? She never responded to any communication attempts.

I understand that she says she's going to 'make this right', but she's said that to one of the other customers before and never followed through. So how are the three of us supposed to trust that?

To make matters even worse, she took on orders to pay back other customers so that nothing ever had to come out of her pocket. So she knew she was in over her head, but continued to take orders. She's also been B/S/T'ing which she could have used that money to pay us back, but failed to do so. I guess I have a different mentality in that, if I owe someone, before I take money for me, I'm going to pay them back first (like...credit cards), because that money wasn't mine to begin with. The money that I paid her was hard earned, she spent it and it wasn't hers to spend. How did she pick and chose who she was going to refund and who she wasn't? I understand she made some refunds but there are still customers out there waiting for theirs, because at the end of the day, it's still their money.

I do think other WAHM's should learn from this situation.

I completely understand where you are coming from.

You don't have to defend why you feel how you feel.

All of the "oldies" here really need to lighten up on the newbies. We dont want to chase off new members. They have a right to be angry and hurt and state their feelings. Dannie, Nicky and Sam said it perfectly. Lets all try to be classy with a "c"!

This!

[Jenga]

nobody said she was expected to pay the wahm back. Originally, she was expected it back bc she had the product in hand. (yes the wahm sent her the item before she finished paying on it, bc she thought they were friends and she was good for it). But she did end up sending the product back, maybe not QUITE in the condition it was sent it, but hey, the wahm took a risk sending the product before she was paid, and she knows that, but like I said, we all thought she was tight with us.

So anyway, long story short, and to answer your post, she is not expected to pay anything back to that wahm. The wahm wants nothing from her. *I* was posting the story, bc I felt I needed to let ppl know that the shadiness is not only these 2 transactions she is currently working on. Cass OFFERED to pay the difference (just yesterday) but I said the wahm wasnt worried about it anymore.
~~~~~~~
so she never actually canceled the transaction, she went ahead and let the wahm work on everything (and it was a LONG process, not like knitting a pair of shorties or something) KNOWING she was never going to able to pay for it. Got it sent to her on god faith (an obvious mistake, even if we think we "know" someone) , and then sent it back MONTHS later, looking used, but of course no way to prove it was, and even if there was, the wahm really didnt think she was EVER going to get money out of Cass so she let it go.
~~~~~~~
*good faith, not god faith

WOW.

I'd love to hear Cass's side because if this is true, this is truly unacceptable IMO. WAHMs should not be expected to take back their wares whenever the owner is done using them. Especially if you haven't finished paying for them in the first place. If you can't afford to pay for them, you can't afford to use them, at least in my little world. If you send them back after some time, there should be obvious defect on the part of the WAHM's work or materials or be in new condition.

Yeah...

[Sanity]

Cassandra, first congratulations on your baby!!

Second, I am glad to hear that you are ready to take care of this all. I know it is a crappy time, but I am very proud that you are acknowledging it all and ready to correct it.
I just hope that you are able to take a few lessons form this all. And I hope that some other WAHM's can also look at this situation and take some lessons. People need to learn to recongize the line of taking on too much before it happens and people get hurt and left waiting on things.

I know that wasn't directed JUST at me, but I am certainly looking at it and learning.

[Cootie Queen]

I know that wasn't directed JUST at me, but I am certainly looking at it and learning.

I've had to learn said lesson, the hard way, twice. :hide: :banghead:

[Sanity]

Just remember, the more you tear someone down,the less likley they are to come back. Most of the Hot Seat threads that have people who made things right went down peacefully. If you just name call, catfight, and try to make someone feel like they're nothing - well...then its gonna work and they will run off and not make a damn thing right.

And really - had she NOT come on here immediately, there would have been an uproar about her disappearing and this being her MO. At least wait until she's home where she can do something before attacking too hard. You can be mad, you can be mistrustful, you can not give a ~POOP~ if she's hit by a car - that's your deal and you're entitled to it but the fact remains, she can't do a whole lot through her phone while in a hospital room with a newborn.

Now, is the timing bad? The timing is never good when you're faced with the wrongs you've done. But if you feel faced with them AND backed into a corner, its easier to run than fix the problems.

:yeahthat:

[Ahavati]

I am home.

I'm trying to refund but I have a dispute now for the transaction Thursday. I can't refund because that is there. So I am not sure how to go around this as it wont be dropped until she receives her package. (which I was about to print a shipping label for and can't do that either)

Any help on a way around this so I can take care of this?

[Ahavati]

Okay, fixed it.

Marchstarz and Mockingbird have been refunded. I have to go search for the 3rd to PM her and get her pp addy because I can't find it.

Sam, I will be PMing you a screenshot from paypal of each of them.

Nini02 - I will have to get out to the post office tomorrow to mail your package as I can't print a PP label from PP now. So sometimes tomorrow I will have a DC# for you.

[redfishbluefish]

:clapclap: good job, Cass. Hope your baby girl is well <3

[mayasmom25]

Good job and congratulations on your new little one. :)

[erinbeth]

Ahh, your baby is beautiful.

[rmbrasher]

Pretty pretty babe - congrats!
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(and I'm super impressed at your fast response)

[mockingbird]

I got my refund today. Thank you very much for letting me have a voice on this thread and thank you, Cassandra, for righting this. :-)

[Holly Golightly]

I'm glad to see this all coming to a resolution. :)

Congratulations on your daughter Ahavati! :wub:

[marchstarz]

I also received a refund today. Thank you for making this right.

[kwootten2]

Thank you for getting things taken care of, Cass!

And :congrats:!

[LadyLiz]

:congrats: and :wub: to you getting it taken care of. :)

[SuzieSunshine]

The only thing I have an issue with on this whole thing is that people are expecting Cassandra to pay more money on the custom that she did not follow through with. The WAHM charged a deposit. That was the WAHM's "CYA" money... If the buyer backs out, *that* is what (and all) the buyer should lose, IMO. If the WAHM was making something that simply could never be sold to anyone else, then she needed to consider that in the deposit money. Period.
The rest of it, I hope she makes good on. The WAHM transaction though, seems to me, like she already lost her "promissory" money and thus canceled the transaction. It is not her fault the WAHM could not recoup the full agreed upon sale price; that was not Cassandra's problem.
Disclaimer: I am not Cassandra's friend, I just post here :D Also, I have no idea who the WAHM is.

This might be the case had she not received and kept said product for some time before returning it to the WAHM. Also- I don't recall anyone saying she should repay it-- just that it was evidence of a pattern of "scamming" type behavior. Frankly, she ought to repay it as soon as she can- because even if you don't "have" to, you should choose to do the right thing no matter what. It's not cool to screw people out of any amount of money and expect to be forgiven/have a business reputation again until it's made right.



I'm also impressed by the fast turnaround time on the refunds! And I'm sooo glad I'm not a WAHM right now-- it never ocurred to me how many times people do end up getting stuck in a bad spot or getting stiffed by a buyer...

[Shopaholic]

can you call paypal and ask how you can resolve the disput if you can't print a label? will they allow you to mail it from the PO and show them a tracking # or something? I'd call paypal right away adn ask what you can do.

congratulations on your new little baby girl!

[randareena]

Good job on making things right! And your new little daughter is adorable :wub:

[Manda00]

Congrats on your sweet little girl!

[amjbsmama]

i've been following this thread but didn't want to say anything since i wasn't involved and didn't feel i had anything to add but i must say i'm super happy the issues are being resolved and CONGRATS on your sweet baby girl :loveshower::loveshower::loveshower:

[anamlgrl]

i've been following this thread but didn't want to say anything since i wasn't involved and didn't feel i had anything to add but i must say i'm super happy the issues are being resolved and CONGRATS on your sweet baby girl :loveshower::loveshower::loveshower:

:yeahthat:

[MotherMoonPads]

can you call paypal and ask how you can resolve the disput if you can't print a label? will they allow you to mail it from the PO and show them a tracking # or something? I'd call paypal right away adn ask what you can do.

congratulations on your new little baby girl!

She can ship from the post office and enter the delivery confirmation number within the dispute. The dispute will be closed when the item shows as delivered, and then the funds from her account will be unfrozen.

[rainydaybaby]

:woot:

[Ahavati]

Nini02 - Your DC# is 9101785091401449646146 (https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_track_package&info=Js9vZcFsUFgMhSsxrznhLOsRhYL6ckrNWjGivU7Hl8fI9 HIxImkyXAGmQUe&return=_history&history_cache=nEvs0WzbgMwAAAABx3yR2McP5.0AAAAIcjUY 40uW2yP..........................................w AAAAFLloxwS5.G8AAAASwAAAEsAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABLn8 bwAAAAAAAAABQAAAAABwAAAAA)

I just went to the print a label and copied the info to there. I just am not able to get out and about with the baby today. So it's been shipped. DH too it and dropped it at the postal place.

[redfishbluefish]

Awwww Cass, shes adorable! :<3:

[Sweetmama26]

Cassandra congrats on your beautiful baby, she's adorable. And I'm glad to see you made things right.

[Lacey]

I'm glad to see everything is being resolved. Congrats on Chaiya

[serwachic]

It makes me so happy to see threads like this end well and the payments resolved. Cass, congratulations on your new little one (who is SO adorable!), and I'm really hoping you can rest and relax without having all of this on your shoulders!

And as an aside, this whole situation is why I was just telling my DH that I felt like I needed to take 8-10 weeks of a complete maternity leave from my WAHM business. I worry about crossing that line of getting overwhelmed and becoming a crappy businesswoman. I've learned a lot from reading through the hot seat threads about being honest with yourself about how much you can handle.

[snookemz]

It makes me so happy to see threads like this end well and the payments resolved. Cass, congratulations on your new little one (who is SO adorable!), and I'm really hoping you can rest and relax without having all of this on your shoulders!

And as an aside, this whole situation is why I was just telling my DH that I felt like I needed to take 8-10 weeks of a complete maternity leave from my WAHM business. I worry about crossing that line of getting overwhelmed and becoming a crappy businesswoman. I've learned a lot from reading through the hot seat threads about being honest with yourself about how much you can handle.

yes, honesty and communication are KEY to any sucessful WAHM (or any business really, but especially a small one).
and you deserve 8-10 weeks :) you need that time for you and for your bebe!

I'm so glad this thread has gone so well!

[SewQuiet]

Cass, congratulations on your little girl. I PM'd you my paypal addy (and the old one since I updated it to an email I use more regularly). Thank you for taking care of this.

[Ahavati]

Cass, congratulations on your little girl. I PM'd you my paypal addy (and the old one since I updated it to an email I use more regularly). Thank you for taking care of this.

Ok Sara, yours is sent.

All and any outstanding transactions are taken care of. IF there are anymore concerning this, it hasn't been brought to my attention and I request that it is. These are the only ones I know of.

[Purple]

wow. talk about holy batman fast problem fixing!!!

[Mom]

Cassandra,

I just wanted to say that I'm very impressed with the way you've handled all this. and I for one would not have an issue with buying from you in the future.

Thank you for the way you did all this.

[organicmomma]

I'm confused...i don't think you can close a pp acct with open issues. I have had an open issue on my pp account from a non-refundable deposit from this guy that bought a volkswagon from me on ebay in 08 then decided he didn't want it and it's still there, but means nothing, because they dont deal with ppl that pay the deposit, but don't follow through with the auction, although before finding that out, i emptied my bank acct to give him 300 dollars...and it's still there, and i can't close it...

[~Isme~]

Huh?

[Jenga]

um
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maybe it's me but I can't read that. wall of text = fail moment or just me?

[kukukachoo]

sometimes periods are a good thing! :giggle:

[Rocket Queen]

:panic: Oh noes, the comma splices are taking over!

[naughtymonkey]

i must have not had enough coffee yet. can someone translate that?

[kermittfrog]

shes got a paypal issue .

[organicmomma]

I'm confused...i don't think you can close a pp acct with open issues. I have had an open issue on my pp account from a non-refundable deposit from this guy that bought a volkswagon from me on ebay in 08 then decided he didn't want it and it's still there, but means nothing, because they dont deal with ppl that pay the deposit, but don't follow through with the auction, although before finding that out, i emptied my bank acct to give him 300 dollars...and it's still there, and i can't close it...


Sheesh.(period) Sorry.(period) It was late.(period):err:
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shes got a paypal issue .


I don't have a paypal issue.(period) It was the other person's fault.(period) He paid a non-refundable deposit on a car the he won on ebay, but didn't follow through.(period) So he wanted his deposit back and said he didn't receive it.(period) thank you...

[jenniferjunniper]

Sheesh.(period) Sorry.(period) It was late.(period):err:
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I don't have a paypal issue.(period) It was the other person's fault.(period) He paid a non-refundable deposit on a car the he won on ebay, but didn't follow through.(period) So he wanted his deposit back and said he didn't receive it.(period) thank you...


LOL! (exclamation point)

[BeccatheGreat]

Jenn! :lmao:

[romanlili]

LOL! (exclamation point)

:lol:
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[Jenga]

(insert witty quip relating to the word "period") !!!1!1!!11one!!!!!!!! ELEVEN!!

[~Isme~]

LOL! (exclamation point)
:funnyaward:

[_melody_]

I think it's about time for this.
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u300/melodyvh/nutz/800180d9.jpg

[~Isme~]

I think it's about time for this.


:lol:

[randareena]

LOL! (exclamation point)


:lmao: Jenn!