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11-07-2010, 01:28 PM
Could someone please tell me what the heck this means? :err:
I'm thinking about going to school next year. I'm looking at the required courses for the major I'd choose if I do go. Eng Comp I and II are required. I'm a bit confused about the prerequisites though. Here's what it says.
Eng Comp I:
Prerequisite(s): Completion of ESLN, a “C” or better in ENGL 062 or ENGL 063, or Placement Test score of 8, or ACT of 18. Students must complete developmental reading requirement prior to taking ENGL 101.
(I'm pretty sure Eng 062/063 are developmental classes.)
Eng Comp II:
Prerequisite(s): “C” or better in ENGL 101 or ACT of 25.
So... First off, I don't know what ESLN means. Nor developmental reading requirement for that matter. I'm not sure if either of those things are common or this is just school specific. Also, for Comp II, does that mean that if I score 25+ (I'm guessing on the Eng part, not composite score), do I get to jump straight to Comp II, even though Comp I is also a requirement? I've never taken the ACT, but I've been studying and I took like 6 English practice tests. My worst score was 80% and I even got all correct on one of them so unless the actual test is much harder, I'm pretty confident I can make at least a 25 on the English part.
Anyway, TIA and sorry I'm so college stupid. :err:
11-07-2010, 01:32 PM
Generally if you've been out of school and are returning to college the school will have placement testing. I've never seen a returning student take the ACT and get placed that way so I can't comment on that part. I'm more familiar with them taking compass testing. It does seem kind of strange to me that they would skip engl 1 based on testing, but I suppose it's possible just like testing out of any other class.
Oh, and my best guess on ESLN is english as a second language.
11-07-2010, 01:48 PM
Ah, so you think my ACT scores wouldn't matter? I graduated in '03 but I never went to college. I figured it would just be the same though and I'd have to take it to get into school. But if not, I'll just skip it altogether.
I would definitely still need to brush up on my math skills for the placement tests though. :err:
11-07-2010, 02:12 PM
Most colleges will make you take a placement test for standard things like math and English if it has been that long, (so I doubt the ACT score will be taken into consideration after 7/8 years). You won't be able to take any English classes or electives without either the higher test placement score or the basic English class. Same goes for math at most colleges.
Call an adviser and ask how to get the placement testing or when they do it.
Mom to 3
11-07-2010, 05:48 PM
I would guess the ESLN is English as a Second Language.
I don't know that they would take the ACT being that old, but I do think that they mean a total score of +25, not just the Reading portion. Oh I just saw that you never took it.. NM lol.
I would make an appointment to meet with an advisor. What type of program do you want to go into? Education?
11-07-2010, 06:05 PM
I graduated in 02, went back to college (although was always in some sort of school) in 05 and I had to take compass tests because my ACT wasn't valid anymore - they said it was a 2 year window.
Yes, you can test out of English and Comp HOWEVER you don't get the credits so if you had them as part of your graduation plan that required lets say, 50 credits, well now you're ahead of the game but you still have to take extra classes to make up those missed credits. If Eng and Comp are 2hrs each then its just 4hrs to make up - but you have to (usually) have credits that are in your degree plan so just any ole credit won't work and now that you've tested out of those 2 classes, you can't go back and take them since you've excelled that level.
Sometimes, despite the testing and ability, its better to take those classes you're too smart for. As long as you don't goof off you can get a great grade and that A now might save your GPA later, kwim?
I would get with an advisor to talk about your degree path options and if classes out of the plan will still count toward graduation later if you have the core classes covered. As you get further into your plan, you may find that some of the classes are only offered in the fall or only the spring because the plan is set very strict to accomidate students starting in the fall and following the degree path to the letter.
And get a copy of the degreen path/plan for the area you're interested in and all related areas. For instance, you might be going to be an OT but realize you're more interested in PT - well if you have the degree plans out then you can see what classes you've taken already that will work on the PT plan and if its worth the switch (depending on how far you're in)
11-07-2010, 06:38 PM
Yup, I never took it. So I was planning to just take it as soon as I could. I wouldn't figure an old score would work anyway either. I am kind of worried about how I'll do in the math portion, but if I do well enough on the rest of it I could probably still make a 25 total score. I don't know though. I'm worried I'll bomb it, but Robert is insisting I would be able to do really well on it.
Anyway, I'm thinking about going into the ASL Interpretation program. Its not particularly something I want to do as a job because I honestly prefer to SAH... so my main reason for doing it is to become fluent in ASL for Bram. They offer a 1 year certification as well that just includes the ASL courses (no general ed) but I can't get financial aid unless its at least a 2 year program. :sigh: So I have to go with the Associates degree. Our other motivation for me going to school though is to hopefully help my credit out. Its a hell of a lot easier for students to get credit and we want to buy a house ASAP. But right now I can't even get a damn Old Navy card even though my score isn't that bad. :baby1:
Emz, that makes sense. Its 66 credit hours total so if I can't just skip those credits, I'd much rather just take the classes that are easier for me! I didn't think about it that way. Besides, the English is just the general ed requirements, so its not even specific to my major. I guess I'm just REALLY dreading a class where I'm going to constantly be writing papers. Oy.
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